2 strike 2 outs

[Rich Ives]

From a coaching perspective - Who is the batter? Maybe he's a "sure" out and I'd be happy to see him leading off the next inning.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

From a coaching perspective - Who is the batter? Maybe he's a "sure" out and I'd be happy to see him leading off the next inning.

That's not a reason to ask, it's a reason not to ask.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by mbyron

That's not a reason to ask, it's a reason not to ask.

Exactly!

But then the question was why wouldn't one ask.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Exactly!

But then the question was why wouldn't one ask.

I was responding to Stu Clary's question, and that was not it.

We clearly agree that the defense might or might not have a reason to ask!

[SAump]

The defense made a play. The defense will not have a choice.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by SAump

The defense made a play. The defense will not have a choice.

Not according to FED interpretations..........

SITUATION 20: Two outs, R3 at second base. On a 1-2 pitch, R3 attempts to steal third base as the batter attempts to check his swing. R3 is thrown out at third base for the third out. The defense now wants to appeal the check-swing on B4 so that if he went around, he struck out and would not come back to bat in the next half-inning. U1 checks with the base umpire and U2 confirms that B4 did indeed swing at strike three. RULING: Since B4’s out is a “fourth” out, the defense may select the out which is most to its advantage. B4 is out for out No. 3 and the batter following him in the lineup will bat first in the next half-inning.

[DG]

Originally Posted by asdf

Not according to FED interpretations..........

SITUATION 20: Two outs, R3 at second base. On a 1-2 pitch, R3 attempts to steal third base as the batter attempts to check his swing. R3 is thrown out at third base for the third out. The defense now wants to appeal the check-swing on B4 so that if he went around, he struck out and would not come back to bat in the next half-inning. U1 checks with the base umpire and U2 confirms that B4 did indeed swing at strike three. RULING: Since B4’s out is a “fourth” out, the defense may select the out which is most to its advantage. B4 is out for out No. 3 and the batter following him in the lineup will bat first in the next half-inning.

Actually on the check swing appeal the batter is the 3rd out and the throw unnecessary. But I would expect any good catcher to make the throw because he does not know what the result of the appeal will be.

[Altor]

Originally Posted by asdf

RULING: Since B4’s out is a “fourth” out, the defense may select the out which is most to its advantage.[/I]

Eww. I dislike that wording. If the batter is out on the appeal, then he should be the third out...period. The defense should decide whether they want that out before they ask about the check swing.