Tagging base with empty glove

[tap24]

Thanks mbryon. Do you know of a rule cite for that, or is it just understood that properly worn equipment (like a shoe or glove or catcher's shin guard) is deemed part of the body?

[UmpJM]

tap24,

The Rule 2.00 definitions of "Tag" and "Person" are the "rule cites" that prove mbyron's assertions correct.

JM

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by tap24

Thanks mbryon. Do you know of a rule cite for that, or is it just understood that properly worn equipment (like a shoe or glove or catcher's shin guard) is deemed part of the body?

If someone wants to argue with you ask them if it's a valid tag of the base if the fielder touches the base with his shoe, or does he have to remove his shoe and sock ant touch the base with his bare foot.

That should get the "aha" lamp lit.

[bisonlj]

Not a baseball umpire here so this will seem like a dumb question. What if the fielder tags the runner with an empty glove and the ball in his hand? Does the same logic apply?

[UmpJM]

bisonlj,

No, the logic is decidely different.

For a tag of a runner (as opposed to the tag of a base), the runner must be tagged with the hand and/or mitt that has secure possession of the ball.

JM

[pastordoug]

Funny you should mention that Rich.... Several years ago at one of the rec games I had a coach that was upset with a call I made at 2nd where the 2nd baseman fell down but had the ball in his hand and streched out and touched 2nd with his glove on a force. HC... "There's no way his out, the ball was in his hand and not the glove when he touched 2nd"

I could not convince this guy that it's the same as the 1st baseman with his foot on the bag when receiving a throw...

It was so funny until that "aha" light came on when his player demonstrated to him how that was an out...

Man I sure miss those rec games!!!