Teach Bob Something #4

[PeteBooth]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

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Ozzy as you are well aware, you do not need to TOUCH the base in order to have attained it.

From the OP

Batter hits one to the gap and ends up on second, but misses first. Both R1 and R2 cross the plate.

The balk call is disregarded because all runners advanced at least one base. Even though the BR missed first base he is deemed to have touched it until appealed.

Here is another way to look at it. Suppose the defense didn't appeal. Would you still enforce the balk call?

NO as the BR is on second base and the other runners advanced one base. Therefore, if you would not enforce the balk call if the defense DOES NOT appeal then on the same token you cannot enforce the balk because they appealed. In a nutshell the BR advanced one base even though he didn't touch the base.

Pete Booth

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

Ozzy as you are well aware, you do not need to TOUCH the base in order to have attained it.

From the OP

The balk call is disregarded because all runners advanced at least one base. Even though the BR missed first base he is deemed to have touched it until appealed.

Here is another way to look at it. Suppose the defense didn't appeal. Would you still enforce the balk call?

NO as the BR is on second base and the other runners advanced one base. Therefore, if you would not enforce the balk call if the defense DOES NOT appeal then on the same token you cannot enforce the balk because they appealed. In a nutshell the BR advanced one base even though he didn't touch the base.

Pete Booth

Your right, Pete. I got hung up on the wording.

[cviverito]

Wouldn't you know it? We talk about this in the forum and in my game tonight...it didn't happen. HA!

[UmpTTS43]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Your right, Pete. I got hung up on the wording.

Damn wording.

[bob jenkins]

Well, I agree that the ruling *should be* the same in NCAA as it is in OBR (ignore th balk, get the out, no runs score).

But, that question (or one substantially similar to it) is on the most recent NCAA quiz. And, they say to enforce the balk.

So, either (a) they're wrong, (b) I'm wrong, (c) I misread the question or the answer.