To uphold or deny?

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

In the OP, the pitcher had not assumed his pitching position when the runner retreated.

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Dash,

Huh?!?!!? WTF are you talking about?

In the OP, the R3 STARTS on 3B (hence, the appellation, "R3"). The pitcher then presumably pitches the ball because I don't understand how the batter could have...

... hit(s) the ball out in front of the plate....

if the pitcher never pitched it.

JM

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

In the OP, the R3 STARTS on 3B

Oops. You're right. Thanks for not being snotty about it.

[jicecone]

Ok, for the record then. In Fed the runner is out on appeal because of Situation #9 ONLY. A runner is either advancing and shall touch the bases in order or returning, and shall retouch the bases in reverse order. Black and white no exceptions during live action.

In OBR there is no Situation #9 so we abide by the real rules that read quite similar to Fed, except for Situation #9.

In Fed you uphold appeal, in OBR you deny.

[SAump]

B/R may run directly to 2B after running up the line past 1B.

Retouching a base is only required when runner must retreat.

Neither condition is satisfied in the OP, thus OBR is correct.

The runner advancing home and returning to 3B is not required to retouch 3B in either direction.

FED Situation 9 now requires a runner to retouch a previously occupied base before advancing to the next base. Reminds me of the FED foul ball ruling that was recently rescinded.