Mark McGwire admits to long-term steroid use!

[TussAgee11]

Jeeze, legality and enforcement principles are two completely different things. You think any decent umpire would understand that.

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Jeeze, legality and enforcement principles are two completely different things. You think any decent umpire would understand that.

You'd think, wouldn't you?

Then again, perhaps the difficulty lies in the qualifier in your second sentence.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Ump153

You'd think, wouldn't you?

Then again, perhaps the difficulty lies in the qualifier in your second sentence.

Obviously you do not understand the difference. Pete Rose is banned from baseball. He cannot hold a position in baseball. He cannot watch a game in a baseball stadium. He cannot even help out in spring training with players and teams and pass down the wisdom of hitting.

Mark McGwire is currently the Hitting Coach for the St. Louis Cardinals. Not only has he admitted to using what you call an illegal substance and was never suspended as a player for using any substance and all his records stand. But I guess steroids were banned right? Funny how the same applies to Sosa, Bonds, A-Rod, Manny or any other player that admits or found to using steroids or any illegal substances. Better yet, if other teams wanted to hire those individuals I just mentioned to positions in the front office or on the managerial staffs of those teams, they could. Wow, that must have been some memo.

And if the sports writers choose to vote McGwire in the HOF, they can. If they sports writers want to vote Rose into the Hall of Fame, Rose is not on the ballet. But you seem to have a good grasp of illegality and punishment.

Peace

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if the sports writers choose to vote McGwire in the HOF, they can. If they sports writers want to vote Rose into the Hall of Fame, Rose is not on the ballet. But you seem to have a good grasp of illegality and punishment.

I love this one best. A manager gambling on games and a player taking steroids. Very similar. Hard to believe the punishment doesn't match.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

I love this one best. A manager gambling on games and a player taking steroids. Very similar. Hard to believe the punishment doesn't match.

You can say whatever you like, what they do does not make one bit of difference in my life. Apparently it does for you. Oh well.

I did not even know you existed until we had this conversation just now.

Peace

[Kevin Finnerty]

Intractable and an absolute, bald-faced liar. Nice combination.

[SAump]

Lyle Martin Alzado (April 3, 1949 – May 14, 1992) Alzado is probably most remembered today for being one of the first major U.S. sports figures to admit using steroids. In the last years of his life, as he battled against the brain tumor that eventually caused his death at the age of 43, Alzado asserted that his steroid abuse directly led to his fatal illness, but each of his physicians stated it could not be true, and that while steroids do have harsh side effects, they were not the cause of his brain cancer. According to some reports, Alzado was using natural growth hormone, harvested from human corpses, as opposed to synthetic growth hormones. However, shortly before his death, Alzado recounted his steroid abuse in an article in Sports Illustrated.

Reading this thread reminded me of why the honest Cleveland Indians never stand a chance of winning a World Series. MLB turned its nose away from enforcement policies. Ken Camineti was breaking the rules between the BAN in 1991, and the enforcement which didn't kick in until 2006. Those existing steroid ban policies were not worth the paper it was written on prior to 2006. in 2002, Camineti made "the first public admission of steroid use by any professional baseball player."

BTW, Barry Bonds is a super baseball star. Both his baseball career and his commitment to excellence speaks for itself, but his trainer is really my superhero. Gotta love his chutzpah. How much did the government spend on that aimless indictment?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Intractable and an absolute, bald-faced liar. Nice combination.

Sorry Kevin, I do not follow this board like you do. Outside of this conversation I do not remember ever talking to you. I do not even really like talking baseball that much until the basketball season is completely over (March Madness included). I honestly do not know who you are and you are not someone that I turn to for positions on anything here. Sorry, but you are not. I would not even know your pattern because I would not be following it.

Peace

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Jeeze, legality and enforcement principles are two completely different things. You think any decent umpire would understand that.

You would think.