Mark McGwire admits to long-term steroid use!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Who really gives a crap anyway? Does it affect you or your paycheck? All this mess does is bring baseball down yet another notch. Baseball banned the Chicago boys but kept a beer toting philanderer like the Babe. They threw out Rose because he put a black eye on the Game yet they turned the other way with "juice". Face it, Baseball just does as it pleases to keep face and all the pi$$ing and moaning from the fans won't do jack crap to fix it. Personally, I could care less who is in the Hall of Flame because it does nothing for me or my life. My input as to who gets into the Hall means nothing so I don't bother to argue. Baseball is like the Government. Don't do this today but tomorrow you can do it all you want - as long as we are not looking.

Get a life, people! You are just umpires and fans of the Game. try to remember your place!

So true, so true. And no matter what anyone says, baseball did not outlaw taking substances and a memo does not change that. And this situation with Big Mac was created by the powers that be. They only have themselves to blame and why they will have to deal with players that were the best of their era under complete and total perception of cheating the game no matter what you think. And you have arrogant media people who want to say someone that they never saw play were better than current players. It is all kind of humorous to me.

Peace

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And no matter what anyone says, baseball did not outlaw taking substances and a memo does not change that.

http://www.steroidsinbaseball.net/assets/memo.pdf

And the truth shall set you free.

[TussAgee11]

Jeeze, legality and enforcement principles are two completely different things. You think any decent umpire would understand that.

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Jeeze, legality and enforcement principles are two completely different things. You think any decent umpire would understand that.

You'd think, wouldn't you?

Then again, perhaps the difficulty lies in the qualifier in your second sentence.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Ump153

You'd think, wouldn't you?

Then again, perhaps the difficulty lies in the qualifier in your second sentence.

Obviously you do not understand the difference. Pete Rose is banned from baseball. He cannot hold a position in baseball. He cannot watch a game in a baseball stadium. He cannot even help out in spring training with players and teams and pass down the wisdom of hitting.

Mark McGwire is currently the Hitting Coach for the St. Louis Cardinals. Not only has he admitted to using what you call an illegal substance and was never suspended as a player for using any substance and all his records stand. But I guess steroids were banned right? Funny how the same applies to Sosa, Bonds, A-Rod, Manny or any other player that admits or found to using steroids or any illegal substances. Better yet, if other teams wanted to hire those individuals I just mentioned to positions in the front office or on the managerial staffs of those teams, they could. Wow, that must have been some memo.

And if the sports writers choose to vote McGwire in the HOF, they can. If they sports writers want to vote Rose into the Hall of Fame, Rose is not on the ballet. But you seem to have a good grasp of illegality and punishment.

Peace

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if the sports writers choose to vote McGwire in the HOF, they can. If they sports writers want to vote Rose into the Hall of Fame, Rose is not on the ballet. But you seem to have a good grasp of illegality and punishment.

I love this one best. A manager gambling on games and a player taking steroids. Very similar. Hard to believe the punishment doesn't match.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

I love this one best. A manager gambling on games and a player taking steroids. Very similar. Hard to believe the punishment doesn't match.

You can say whatever you like, what they do does not make one bit of difference in my life. Apparently it does for you. Oh well.

I did not even know you existed until we had this conversation just now.

Peace

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

Jeeze, legality and enforcement principles are two completely different things. You think any decent umpire would understand that.

You would think.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Ump153

http://www.steroidsinbaseball.net/assets/memo.pdf

And the truth shall set you free.

Interesting. The 1991 ban came complete with testing and discipline. Puts the lie to J/R's babble, doesn't it?

I'm sure he'll invent something to dispose of this reality as well. In fact, it should be coming soon...wait for it...here it comes...