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Old Wed Oct 28, 2009, 08:40pm
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Gerry Davis Crew get its right!

Just had a double play in the World Series...lots of confusion around second base (catch/no catch) and then a tag out at first.....Confusion...huddle, and then the right call by the Crew....Nicely done by Davis and Crew!
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Old Wed Oct 28, 2009, 08:42pm
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Old Wed Oct 28, 2009, 09:23pm
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Thumbs up for Gerry Davis - he's been doing a great job tonight. But then, when has he NOT done a great job? He's always steady, relaxed, has great timing, and doesn't get caught up in the heat of the moment.
Just like all of us...

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Old Wed Oct 28, 2009, 10:13pm
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That plate presence of his that you just highlighted so eloquently: it's a good package of skills and command to try to emulate.

I use that stance of his, and it is very relaxed and effective.

Davis is a great umpire.
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Old Wed Oct 28, 2009, 10:21pm
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And the third base coach of the year award goes to ... Sam Perlozzo, for wheeling his center fielder into a home plate collision with a 6-0 lead in the ninth inning!
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Old Wed Oct 28, 2009, 10:23pm
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Where are the Gerry Davis stance bashers tonight? They should take note how well it works for the mystro, and for those of us who use it, we should aspire to do as well.
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Old Wed Oct 28, 2009, 10:38pm
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Where are the Gerry Davis stance bashers tonight? They should take note how well it works for the mystro, and for those of us who use it, we should aspire to do as well.
Amen!

And once in our lives we should each be granted the privilege to call a pitching clinic by a pitcher like Cliff Lee. He just dominated one of the best offensive teams in the last decade. If Rollins doesn't try to pull an Ozzie, Lee could have a World Series Game 1 shutout on his ever more impressive résumé. Amazing performance!
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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 12:06am
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Where are the Gerry Davis stance bashers tonight? They should take note how well it works for the mystro, and for those of us who use it, we should aspire to do as well.
I know he invented the dang stance... but...

Everytime I see him work I am amazed of how balanced, relaxed, and smooth he looks.
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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 12:38am
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Where are the Gerry Davis stance bashers tonight?
Well, I was going to take the rest of the night off until you asked!
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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 09:05am
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Just had a double play in the World Series...lots of confusion around second base (catch/no catch) and then a tag out at first.....Confusion...huddle, and then the right call by the Crew....Nicely done by Davis and Crew!
Can any of you "link-sters" out there post a link to this play if it's available?
Thanks.

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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 09:22am
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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 10:10am
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I agree that it was technically the right call, but it was still imperfect umpiring. The second base umpire signaled out before the shortstop tagged second, but a much quicker out call on the line drive would have avoided the confusion for the base runner.

The first base umpire called Cano safe (when he was already out), so he added to the confusion. I suppose if Matsui had gone back safely to first and then walked off because of the safe call, the umpires would have put him back on first base after their huddle.

Matsui should have been alert and seen the line drive being caught and gone back to first, but this was not a play for which to pat the umpires on the back.
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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 10:28am
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I have Gorman emphatically pumping the out on the catch well before Rollins went to the bag. It was a mess out of a common play, but it was a clear catch, a clear and emphatic signal (50,000 can make too much noise to hear ''catch"), and the eventual tag of the runner that wasn't forced. The Phillies' players played it smart, and it got messy. But unlike some of the calls we've seen lately, the end result was correct.

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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 11:23am
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I have Gorman emphatically pumping the out on the catch well before Rollins went to the bag. It was a mess out of a common play, but it was a clear catch, a clear and emphatic signal (50,000 can make too much noise to hear ''catch"), and the eventual tag of the runner that wasn't forced. The Phillies' players played it smart, and it got messy. But unlike some of the calls we've seen lately, the end result was correct.
Kevin I agree but why the long huddle?

This should have taken all of 20 seconds to resolve.

U2 would have said I had an out on the catch by Rollins
U1 would say I have a tag on Matsui off the base

End of huddle. Easy explanation to the coaches.

IMO, the huddle should not have taken that long.

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Old Thu Oct 29, 2009, 11:08am
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I agree that it was technically the right call, but it was still imperfect umpiring. The second base umpire signaled out before the shortstop tagged second, but a much quicker out call on the line drive would have avoided the confusion for the base runner.

The first base umpire called Cano safe (when he was already out), so he added to the confusion. I suppose if Matsui had gone back safely to first and then walked off because of the safe call, the umpires would have put him back on first base after their huddle.

Matsui should have been alert and seen the line drive being caught and gone back to first, but this was not a play for which to pat the umpires on the back.
Not the 1B ump responsibilty to see if it was trapped or caught. He reacted to the SS going to the bag and then throwing to first. The SS going to the bag confused things.

Imperfect umpiring? What are you talking about? You just said he signaled out before SS tagged the bag. Well that happened approximately 2 nano seconds after he caught the ball. Watching what happens and then signaling is the sign of good umpiring , not imperfect umpiring. Quick decisions, and quick signals get you in trouble.

Its obvious you have spent little time umpiring or playing this game because people do not reacte as fast as you think. Could have, would have, and should have is only realty when being an armchair umpire.
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