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Old Mon Sep 28, 2009, 11:10am
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Question Ejection Question.....your opinion...

It hasn't happen to any of my players (when I was a coach) thankfully......however I have seen this happen several times in ALL sports....basketball, baseball, soccer, etc. We are usually talking about teenagers or younger.

Situation....player barks something at referee/umpire......official says to player one more word and you're gone......player then says something like "Yes Sir" or "OK" in a resigning tone......RESULT: Player gets tossed!!

I've seen it happen and had it happen to me (when umping) and I won't toss a player for that. I asked one fellow ump why he tossed the kid.....ump told me, "I told him one more word and he's gone. He said "OK" so I tossed him".

Am I too easy on these kids? If they give me trouble again....God Bless Them....but they rarely do.
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Old Mon Sep 28, 2009, 11:39am
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Properly trained officials do not use the expression, "One more word and you're gone." You have observed the reason.

With proper instruction, these officials will learn to say, "that's enough," or something similar.

Of course, the barking alone might warrant an ejection: it's a myth that a warning is required before an ejection.
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Old Mon Sep 28, 2009, 01:34pm
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It hasn't happen to any of my players (when I was a coach) thankfully......however I have seen this happen several times in ALL sports....basketball, baseball, soccer, etc. We are usually talking about teenagers or younger.

Situation....player barks something at referee/umpire......official says to player one more word and you're gone......player then says something like "Yes Sir" or "OK" in a resigning tone......RESULT: Player gets tossed!!

I've seen it happen and had it happen to me (when umping) and I won't toss a player for that. I asked one fellow ump why he tossed the kid.....ump told me, "I told him one more word and he's gone. He said "OK" so I tossed him".

Am I too easy on these kids? If they give me trouble again....God Bless Them....but they rarely do.
I echo MB, as an official you do not "lock yourself in" by saying "one more word" as that is a threat.

The proper terminolgy as MB eluded to is to say "That's enough" or something similar.

As for the barking that's a HTBT situation and depends upon what type of "barking" is going on because in general terms most will simply ignore (again depends upon the type of barking you are referring to) the FIRST bark.

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Old Mon Sep 28, 2009, 02:32pm
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I am reminded of a story I heard in the 60's that could be fact and could be fiction.

In the version I heard, Augie Donatelli was embroiled in a bill to bill discussion with a batter over a called strike three when the batter flung his bat straight upward in disgust. Augie immediately told him, "If that bat comes down, you're outa here."

Strangely enough, the bat did come down.

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Old Mon Sep 28, 2009, 02:49pm
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I am reminded of a story I heard in the 60's that could be fact and could be fiction.

In the version I heard, Augie Donatelli was embroiled in a bill to bill discussion with a batter over a called striked three when the batter flung his bat straight upward in disgust. Augie immediately told him, "If that bat comes down, you're outa here."

Strangely enough, the bat did come down.
Fact. Actually, it was "If that bat hits the ground."
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Old Tue Sep 29, 2009, 07:34am
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Plain and simple. That is called Baiting a Player.

It is disrepectful and very non-professional. Usually a sign of an inexperienced official trying to demonstrate his authority to anyone around him. The type of official that gives all the others a bad rap.

As already stated here , two simple words are sufficient. "Thats enough" or if bad enough, "Good Bye"
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Old Tue Sep 29, 2009, 11:42am
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Great Response

Thanks guys....now that I think of it, "That's enough" is by far the best response. I have heard it used and it is VERY effective. I will try to make sure that's the one I use when needed.
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