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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 01:09pm
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If/when a coach gets ejected, is there a rule that states he cannot "attend" the next game?

Can someone point me in the right direction to the penalty for the next game?

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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 01:15pm
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I believe it is up to each individual state to decide the penalty for ejections. In Iowa, the penalty is removal from the rest of that day and the following contest at that same level.

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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 01:19pm
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If/when a coach gets ejected, is there a rule that states he cannot "attend" the next game?

Can someone point me in the right direction to the penalty for the next game?

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Umpires are not involved in the penalty phase of ejections. Consult your league, or state, if it involves a school game.
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 01:31pm
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Umpires are not involved in the penalty phase of ejections. Consult your league, or state, if it involves a school game.
So if a coach is ejected during a game, and the penalty for him is a "next game suspension", and the umpire who ejected him sees him standing near the dugout during the next game, you don't get involved?

Maybe I should have said FED game in orig post.

But in FED, isn't it an automatic next game suspension?

I was just wondering if he can "attend" the game.
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 01:34pm
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But in FED, isn't it an automatic next game suspension?
No, it's not. The state / conference might have such a policy, though. And, the state / conference policy might state what action the umpire should take.

My guess is that most who have a suspension policy do NOT have the umpires enforce it. If the coach violates the suspension rule, then additional penalties apply.
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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 01:43pm
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No, it's not. The state / conference might have such a policy, though. And, the state / conference policy might state what action the umpire should take.

My guess is that most who have a suspension policy do NOT have the umpires enforce it. If the coach violates the suspension rule, then additional penalties apply.
Thanks Bob!

That's what I am looking for, is something in writing stating the procedures.
Any thoughts where I might search for such procedures?
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So if a coach is ejected during a game, and the penalty for him is a "next game suspension", and the umpire who ejected him sees him standing near the dugout during the next game, you don't get involved?

Maybe I should have said FED game in orig post.

But in FED, isn't it an automatic next game suspension?

I was just wondering if he can "attend" the game.
In Iowa, the coach is not allowed to be at the next contest date. This is supposed to be self-enforced by the AD and coaches. Although if the official does see them within the confines, they are suppose to report it to the state.

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Old Thu May 29, 2008, 01:45pm
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Thanks Bob!

That's what I am looking for, is something in writing stating the procedures.
Any thoughts where I might search for such procedures?
I would just call your state association and ask them what the policies are

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If/when a coach gets ejected, is there a rule that states he cannot "attend" the next game?

Can someone point me in the right direction to the penalty for the next game?

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As umpires we DO NOT get involved with ejection penalties nor should we answer any questions concerning ejection penalties because we could give wrong information.

Even if the EJ comes with an auomatic 1 game suspension, the ruling committee could vote to suspend the individual for more than one game if this is a repeated offense.

In my association, During the game we simply write down the number of the individual we ejected and the inning it occured in.

After the game we phone the assignor (followed up with an E-mail) and tell him the circumstances of the ejection - End of Story. The assignor then forwards the report to the appropriate AD.

Same is true for every league I umpire in. I do not answer questions about ejection penalties. That is left up to the presidents of the leagues we service.

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Old Fri May 30, 2008, 08:47am
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jdmara....where in Iowa are you?? Anywhere close to Parkersburg?? Saw pics of the tornado damage and it looks awful.
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Umpires are not involved in the penalty phase of ejections. Consult your league, or state, if it involves a school game.
Not so in NCAA. If the ejection includes physical contact, the umpire immediately applies and informs the coach/player/etc....of the next game suspension.

There is also the post game suspension, and the suspension of a pitcher.
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As umpires we DO NOT get involved with ejection penalties nor should we answer any questions concerning ejection penalties because we could give wrong information.

Even if the EJ comes with an auomatic 1 game suspension, the ruling committee could vote to suspend the individual for more than one game if this is a repeated offense.

In my association, During the game we simply write down the number of the individual we ejected and the inning it occured in.

After the game we phone the assignor (followed up with an E-mail) and tell him the circumstances of the ejection - End of Story. The assignor then forwards the report to the appropriate AD.

Same is true for every league I umpire in. I do not answer questions about ejection penalties. That is left up to the presidents of the leagues we service.

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jdmara....where in Iowa are you?? Anywhere close to Parkersburg?? Saw pics of the tornado damage and it looks awful.
I live in Iowa City, a little over 100 miles south of Parkersburg. It has been quite a tragedy because much of the town was destroyed. It was amazing that more people were not harmed since it basically wiped the town out completely. There are a lot of problems right now with contamination of water ways. By the news reports, it seems as though there has been great support for the families.

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Not so in NCAA. If the ejection includes physical contact, the umpire immediately applies and informs the coach/player/etc....of the next game suspension.

There is also the post game suspension, and the suspension of a pitcher.
According to the explanation Dave Yeast gave at an NCAA clinic, this is still regarded as notification of the penalty, not deciding a post game penalty or enforcing the post game penalty.
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