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Old Sat Aug 22, 2009, 09:42pm
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The point of the car example was less one comparability with a shot to one's gonads and more one of illustration about risk-reward trade offs; after all life is full of trade offs we all make every day.

Anyway, while maybe not more painful, a line drive to one's carotid artery could have more dire consequences, ie death. I choose not to wear a mask and a throat guard while I work the bases for lots of reasons you may or may not find humorous, but I risk death. (A man was killed recently at Lynchburg College in Virginia, when a batted ball struck him in the neck.) I find this trade off acceptable, however. I'm guessing, as do you. So, as humorous as you may find this example, it again makes the point that everyday choice often times requires trades of risk vs. reward.
Sorry to ride you, Tony.

I realize that there are other shots that could kill you or knock you cold, but they are all less painful than a split jewel.

Anyway, I cruise the L.A. freeways at between 75 and 80 m.p.h. every single day. I have taken street bikes up to 125 m.p.h. on the coast highway or the canyons and have woven through cars at 90 m.p.h. on freeways. And I have done performance driving in commercials. I absolutely love racing and driving the hell out of a good car. It's a riskier thing than going the limit, but I weigh it and do it.

I would still never go onto a baseball field to perform any function whatsoever without a cup. There is no measurable reward.
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Old Sat Aug 22, 2009, 09:49pm
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I would still never go onto a baseball field to perform any function whatsoever without a cup. There is no measurable reward.
You find no reward; others do. That's the choice (i.e., "risk -reward") they make.
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Old Sat Aug 22, 2009, 09:50pm
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Sorry to ride you, Tony.

I realize that there are other shots that could kill you or knock you cold, but they are all less painful than a split jewel.

Anyway, I cruise the L.A. freeways at between 75 and 80 m.p.h. every single day. I have taken street bikes up to 125 m.p.h. on the coast highway or the canyons and have woven through cars at 90 m.p.h. on freeways. And I have done performance driving in commercials. I absolutely love racing and driving the hell out of a good car. It's a riskier thing than going the limit, but I weigh it and do it.

I would still never go onto a baseball field to perform any function whatsoever without a cup. There is no measurable reward.
Never suggested that there was a measurable reward, merely suggested that we make trade offs based on subjective evaluation. That's why we have aphorisms like "to each his own." The things that you do that are risky have no measurable reward either. They don't need to measurable.

As for what is the reward? Bob is right, just because you don't see a "reward" doesn't mean there isn't. Eg, a reward may be "I don't feel like a dork when I don't wear a cup on the bases and I do feel like a dork when I do." You don't have to agree with anyone's preferences, just understand that he has them and they may be different than yours.
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Old Sat Aug 22, 2009, 10:49pm
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Anyway, I cruise the L.A. freeways at between 75 and 80 m.p.h. every single day. I have taken street bikes up to 125 m.p.h. on the coast highway or the canyons and have woven through cars at 90 m.p.h. on freeways.
So you had rather endanger your life plus the life of others by driving recklessly on the highway, but you make a big deal about whether one should or should not wear a cup on the bases. Interesting.
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Old Sat Aug 22, 2009, 11:40pm
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So you had rather endanger your life plus the life of others by driving recklessly on the highway, but you make a big deal about whether one should or should not wear a cup on the bases. Interesting.
Did I say that I drive recklessly? No, I said that I drive fast.

I don't. I drive with high-level skill and training. I have no accidents, and one ticket in 20 years.

If you are so devoid of skill that going 80 is reckless, then by all means, go slower and stay out of the way.
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Old Sun Aug 23, 2009, 12:18am
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Did I say that I drive recklessly? No, I said that I drive fast.

I don't. I drive with high-level skill and training. I have no accidents, and one ticket in 20 years.

If you are so devoid of skill that going 80 is reckless, then by all means, go slower and stay out of the way.
Some yokels would have a hard time driving out here in SoCal. We change tires at 70 MPH.
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Old Sun Aug 23, 2009, 12:32am
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Some yokels would have a hard time driving out here in SoCal. We change tires at 70 MPH.


A guy who drives the speed limit on the Southern California freeways is known as a road hazard.
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Old Sun Aug 23, 2009, 07:18pm
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Did I say that I drive recklessly? No, I said that I drive fast.

I don't. I drive with high-level skill and training. I have no accidents, and one ticket in 20 years.

If you are so devoid of skill that going 80 is reckless, then by all means, go slower and stay out of the way.
You didn't have to say recklessly, you described it. I suppose you tailgate when a car is going slower until you can get around it.

What are you? A Hollywood stuntman. It just takes but one time and they will carting you off to the morgue. Hopefully, you won't be taking someone else with you.

My driving skills are fine, thank you. I love it when a car flies by and all they do is beat me to the next red light.

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Old Tue Aug 25, 2009, 04:24pm
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I wear a cup on the bases. Why? Because I want to and they're my jewels to protect. I don't care if anybody else does or not but that's what works for me.

This reminds me of the debate I see between those that carry a concealed weapon and those that don't on other forums.
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Old Sun Aug 23, 2009, 12:45am
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Sorry to ride you, Tony.

I realize that there are other shots that could kill you or knock you cold, but they are all less painful than a split jewel.

Anyway, I cruise the L.A. freeways at between 75 and 80 m.p.h. every single day. I have taken street bikes up to 125 m.p.h. on the coast highway or the canyons and have woven through cars at 90 m.p.h. on freeways. And I have done performance driving in commercials. I absolutely love racing and driving the hell out of a good car. It's a riskier thing than going the limit, but I weigh it and do it.

I would still never go onto a baseball field to perform any function whatsoever without a cup. There is no measurable reward.
Do you wear a cup when you ride? I mean, what happens if you get tossed from the bike... you could end up with a busted nut. One leg goes on one side of the street sign, the other goes on the other side. Ouchies.

I guess there is no measurable reward for wearing not wearing one to sleep either, you know, just in case...
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