Weird Call and Ejection

[David B]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

It was a weird call...they got it right though...Wedge must have wanted the night off. PU's mechanics on the play were odd...which is why there were so many questions I think.

I still couldn't tell what the PU called originally. He asked for help, but didn't get any?

Called him out and then brought him back - ball hits ground?

Thanks
David

[johnnyg08]

It seemed like he called swinging strike three. Then asked for help on the check swing or maybe a foul tip/out. Yeah, he appeared to ask, then clapped his hands together and hammered Mourneau out. Gardy comes out, he goes to ask for help, then, gets is correct w/ the foul ball call. Wedge was expected to come out...but they got the play right.

[David B]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

It seemed like he called swinging strike three. Then asked for help on the check swing or maybe a foul tip/out. Yeah, he appeared to ask, then clapped his hands together and hammered Mourneau out. Gardy comes out, he goes to ask for help, then, gets is correct w/ the foul ball call. Wedge was expected to come out...but they got the play right.

Yeah that makes sense now, he was calling a foul tip, but he looked at the ball to see it had dirt on it which made it a foul ball.

The batter knew it also since he never took his helmet off and was just kind of standing there waiting for them to get it right.

Davidson then kind of did his best Lou Pinella act. Must have been tired of the manager that day or something.

Thanks
David

[DonInKansas]

The video played next meets the requirements for "weird call and ejection" as well. You MLB umpire haters will LOVE this one.

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=6116597

[JR12]

Wow!!!!

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

The video played next meets the requirements for "weird call and ejection" as well. You MLB umpire haters will LOVE this one.

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | WSH@CIN: Jacoby gets tossed before the third inning - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

I love it, HPU was very consistent with his call. The only problem was he didn't check the slo-mo after each play. Had Dusty thrown his pretty little flag out like he is supposed to, both these calls could have been reversed and the clock reset. I certainly hope neither of these players got boo-boos from being maliciously struck by the ball here. More importantly ,I hope their healthcare plan covers them for such catastrophic injuries also.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by jicecone

I love it, HPU was very consistent with his call.

Yes, he was consistent. Consistently wrong.*


*Had a coach tell me that once about my strike zone. Now seemed like a great time to use the line.

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

It seemed like he called swinging strike three. Then asked for help on the check swing or maybe a foul tip/out. Yeah, he appeared to ask, then clapped his hands together and hammered Mourneau out. Gardy comes out, he goes to ask for help, then, gets is correct w/ the foul ball call. Wedge was expected to come out...but they got the play right.

I don't think he originally asked for help.
I've seen the clap (or sometimes bump your fists together) on a foul tip...so what I think he was signaling on the point was that the ball was caught before it hit the ground, then the clap was that it was tipped, followed by the out.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

I don't think he originally asked for help.
I've seen the clap (or sometimes bump your fists together) on a foul tip...so what I think he was signaling on the point was that the ball was caught before it hit the ground, then the clap was that it was tipped, followed by the out.

I've never seen or heard of it before...I kind of like it though...the foul tip mechanic reminds me of the basketball mechanic of a blocked shot...which I don't like. Thanks for the post...I learned something new today

[zm1283]

That ball was not fouled off. It's pretty clear in the video that it never hit the bat. Should have been strike three.

[johnnyg08]

then you're not looking at the video close enough...it's a foul ball...it does deflect off of the bat into the ground. we have the advantage of a replay

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

then you're not looking at the video close enough...it's a foul ball...it does deflect off of the bat into the ground. we have the advantage of a replay

Sorry, I've watched it several times and I still didn't see it hit the bat at all. The pitch was in the dirt to begin with. The bat didn't cause it to go into the dirt.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by zm1283

That ball was not fouled off. It's pretty clear in the video that it never hit the bat. Should have been strike three.

So what your trying to say is that he checked his swing and the HPU got it wrong and corrected it after looking at the ball and conferring with the crew.

Now I didn't see it hit the bat either but, it didn't look like he got comfirmation about a checked swing.

Or maybe, the ball was complaining that it was not hit by the bat and the catcher let it get dirty by hitting the ground. The HPU was upset with the ball for causing such a stink and the crew decided to let the batter come back and try and smash the little bas###d to South America.

OOOORRR, the foul tip was not caught. HPU missed the trap of the ball and after conferring with the crew, corrected the call and brought the batter back to the plate.

Your Choice!

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by jicecone

So what your trying to say is that he checked his swing and the HPU got it wrong and corrected it after looking at the ball and conferring with the crew.

Now I didn't see it hit the bat either but, it didn't look like he got comfirmation about a checked swing.

Or maybe, the ball was complaining that it was not hit by the bat and the catcher let it get dirty by hitting the ground. The HPU was upset with the ball for causing such a stink and the crew decided to let the batter come back and try and smash the little bas###d to South America.

OOOORRR, the foul tip was not caught. HPU missed the trap of the ball and after conferring with the crew, corrected the call and brought the batter back to the plate.

Your Choice!

I think the PU knew all along that he swung. I don't think that that was ever an issue. I think the PU originally thought that it was a foul tip, thus going straight into the glove. After Gardenhire argued and said that it hit the dirt first, the PU got help. The BUs told him that it hit the ground first, thus changing it to a foul ball. I don't think it ever hit his bat though, and should have been strike three instead.