Turning shoulders

[Ump Rube]

Originally Posted by mbyron

As I said, FED imposes restrictions on when/how F1 may "jerk" his shoulders.

Does that mean that OBR allows multiple jerks of the shoulders with arm/hand movement after the hands have come together?

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by Ump Rube

Does that mean that OBR allows multiple jerks of the shoulders with arm/hand movement after the hands have come together?

no

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Ump Rube

Does that mean that OBR allows multiple jerks of the shoulders with arm/hand movement after the hands have come together?

OBR makes no mention of shoulder jerks (or other movement), whether or not the hands are joined. Either way, it's a balk to feint a throw to first. What makes a move a feint is up to the umpire. By practice, more movement is allowed before the pitcher joins his hands than after. The slower and shorter the movement, the less likely it is to be a balk.

In FED, the pitcher can move the shoulder (only -- if there's other movement it could be judged to be a feint) as much, as fast, and as far as he wants until the hands are joined. Once the hands are joined, no mevement is allowed (by rule).

[johnnyg08]

There are many legion teams in MN who use FED offense and legion defense until they get to the playoffs. With reentry, it does get more players in the game, etc...

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

There are many legion teams in MN who use FED offense and legion defense until they get to the playoffs. With reentry, it does get more players in the game, etc...

FED for offense and OBR for defense. Now I've heard it all!

[Matt]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

FED for offense and OBR for defense. Now I've heard it all!

To rephrase, FED courtesy runner, re-entry/substitutions, and DH. Everything else is OBR with the Legion slide rule (which is similar to, if not exactly the same as, NCAA.)