Why not another? 9U play

[cc6]

Originally Posted by Ump153

RichMSN: "You called him safe, you can't change it now."

You: "Nope, too late. You called him safe."

Oh, yes, I can see how RichMSN completely, and obvously intentionally, misquted you and changed the entire meaning of what you said.

Shame on him.

And, shame on us for expecting you to act in any other way. You're a coach. It's just your nature.

Without a coach you have no job. Without someone to suggest that you can't change a call, there is no reason for umpires to be on the field. Be thankful for people like Jwwashburn who are the reason you were hired in the first place.

[umpjong]

So.............
When performing umpire duties we must display integrity.
When performing coaching duties integrity is not necessary.

I get it now..........

[SanDiegoSteve]

Thank you for getting it.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by umpjong

So.............
When performing umpire duties we must display integrity.
When performing coaching duties integrity is not necessary.

I get it now..........

This has always been the case. No coach is there to be your friend unless by pretending so, he can gain a tactical advantage.

If you view all coaches as the enemy, you will not be wrong more than 0.000001% of the time, and you gotta like those odds. A tactical truce is about the best you can expect.

Every single coach who has posted in this forum over the years merely solidifies this basic precept.

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by LMan

This has always been the case. No coach is there to be your friend unless by pretending so, he can gain a tactical advantage.

If you view all coaches as the enemy, you will not be wrong more than 0.000001% of the time, and you gotta like those odds. A tactical truce is about the best you can expect.

Every single coach who has posted in this forum over the years merely solidifies this basic precept.

And don't forget that umpires are never to blame for anything.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by cc6

Without a coach you have no job. Without someone to suggest that you can't change a call, there is no reason for umpires to be on the field. Be thankful for people like Jwwashburn who are the reason you were hired in the first place.

By that logic, I should be glad there are gangbangers and dope dealers. Without them, I wouldn't have a job.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by Matt

By that logic, I should be glad there are gangbangers and dope dealers. Without them, I wouldn't have a job.

Do they submit evaluations of you that are included in your overall rating?

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by cc6

Without a coach you have no job. .

No. Without lying, sleazy coaches, I'd have no job. But there's no fear of that, is there?

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by Ump153

No. Without lying, sleazy coaches, I'd have no job. But there's no fear of that, is there?

Ump153,

I disagree. Heck, you don't really NEED any coaches to have a baseball game.

However, you do need at least one umpire to have an actual baseball game.

Even if all coaches were saints, you would still need umpires.

JM

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Ump153,

Even if all coaches were saints, you would still need umpires.

JM

Only because the players are just as ratty.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by Ump153

Only because the players are just as ratty.

Well, I suppose that's one way of looking at it.

But, again, even if all the players were saints, you would STILL need umpires.

JM

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Well, I suppose that's one way of looking at it.

But, again, even if all the players were saints, you would STILL need umpires.

JM

I'm in the camp of "if coaches and players didn't lie or cheat, you wouldn't need umpires."

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by Ump153

I'm in the camp of "if coaches and players didn't lie or cheat, you wouldn't need umpires."

I had inferred that.

While I certainly agree that it is an important aspect of umpiring, I believe that considering it the sole reason represents a profound misconception of the fundamental role of the umpire(s) in a game of baseball.

JM

[cc6]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Ump153,
I disagree. Heck, you don't really NEED any coaches to have a baseball game.
JM

Maybe a review of rule 1.01 would help:

"Baseball is a game between two teams of nine players each, under direction of a manager, played on an enclosed field in accordance with these rules, under jurisdiction of one or more umpires.

Having coaches is part of the baseball tradition, and the rules. Coaches are there to help their team win, and umpires are there to make sure nobody gets an unfair advantage.

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by cc6

Maybe a review of rule 1.01 would help:

"Baseball is a game between two teams of nine players each, under direction of a manager, played on an enclosed field in accordance with these rules, under jurisdiction of one or more umpires.

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The first of the 200 plus errors in the rulebook.