Why not another? 9U play

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by cc6

Without a coach you have no job. .

No. Without lying, sleazy coaches, I'd have no job. But there's no fear of that, is there?

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by Ump153

No. Without lying, sleazy coaches, I'd have no job. But there's no fear of that, is there?

Ump153,

I disagree. Heck, you don't really NEED any coaches to have a baseball game.

However, you do need at least one umpire to have an actual baseball game.

Even if all coaches were saints, you would still need umpires.

JM

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Ump153,

Even if all coaches were saints, you would still need umpires.

JM

Only because the players are just as ratty.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by Ump153

Only because the players are just as ratty.

Well, I suppose that's one way of looking at it.

But, again, even if all the players were saints, you would STILL need umpires.

JM

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Well, I suppose that's one way of looking at it.

But, again, even if all the players were saints, you would STILL need umpires.

JM

I'm in the camp of "if coaches and players didn't lie or cheat, you wouldn't need umpires."

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by Ump153

I'm in the camp of "if coaches and players didn't lie or cheat, you wouldn't need umpires."

I had inferred that.

While I certainly agree that it is an important aspect of umpiring, I believe that considering it the sole reason represents a profound misconception of the fundamental role of the umpire(s) in a game of baseball.

JM

[cc6]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Ump153,
I disagree. Heck, you don't really NEED any coaches to have a baseball game.
JM

Maybe a review of rule 1.01 would help:

"Baseball is a game between two teams of nine players each, under direction of a manager, played on an enclosed field in accordance with these rules, under jurisdiction of one or more umpires.

Having coaches is part of the baseball tradition, and the rules. Coaches are there to help their team win, and umpires are there to make sure nobody gets an unfair advantage.

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by cc6

Maybe a review of rule 1.01 would help:

"Baseball is a game between two teams of nine players each, under direction of a manager, played on an enclosed field in accordance with these rules, under jurisdiction of one or more umpires.

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The first of the 200 plus errors in the rulebook.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Ump153

The first of the 200 plus errors in the rulebook.

Please enlighten me as to the error in that statement. Manager...umpire(s)...sounds accurate.

[Ump153]

Baseball is no longer a game just between two teams of nine players each. At least half the time at the pro level it is a game between two teams of ten players each.

Even at the amateur level much of the time, if not a majority of the time, it is a game between two teams of ten players each.

(You apparently have never attended an Evans Clinc, Classic or school.)

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Ump153

Baseball is no longer a game just between two teams of nine players each. At least half the time at the pro level it is a game between two teams of ten players each.

Even at the amateur level much of the time, if not a majority of the time, it is a game between two teams of ten players each.

(You apparently have never attended an Evans Clinc, Classic or school.)

I was going by the bolded statements, that managers and umpires were involved in the game. If you would care to give me a scholarship to an umpire school, I would choose Harry's.