tag pushes foot off of the bag

[ggk]

BRD 425 nails it - the mlb interp states that "if a runner going into a base does not have body control, he is out when a hard tag knocks him off the base. BRD also references the history of the ruling and the gant/hrbek play.


in the sit with rollins the runner slid awkwardly and did not have body control. great call

[cc6]

Originally Posted by ggk

BRD 425 nails it - the mlb interp states that "if a runner going into a base does not have body control, he is out when a hard tag knocks him off the base. BRD also references the history of the ruling and the gant/hrbek play.


in the sit with rollins the runner slid awkwardly and did not have body control. great call

What is the interpretation for non-MLB games?

[David B]

Originally Posted by cc6

What is the interpretation for non-MLB games?

I'm calling it the same as the MLB interp. In slow motion there was a question about the "push" so you know in real time it probably looked like the runner simply came off the bag.

On the first replays I saw on ESPN that what I thought until they started to show it in slow motion etc.,

Thanks
David

[JPaco54]

What is the ruling if the defense does pushes or pulls the runner off the base?
It was mentioned there is no rules reference for this action.

All I have been studying is the MLB OBR's since the youth leagues I ump refer to these rules. Is there another reference book I need to study? What is BRD?

Thanks in advance!

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JPaco54

What is the ruling if the defense does pushes or pulls the runner off the base?
It was mentioned there is no rules reference for this action.

All I have been studying is the MLB OBR's since the youth leagues I ump refer to these rules. Is there another reference book I need to study? What is BRD?

Thanks in advance!

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Not pushing or pulling a runner off the base should not need its own special rule. It should just fall directly under unsportsmanlike conduct, and I will not call a runner out whose own momentum did not carry them off the base.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by JPaco54

What is the ruling if the defense does pushes or pulls the runner off the base?

"No! He's safe! (signal safe) And you (point to fielder), knock it off!"

[johnnyg08]

probably follow it up with a "Time" right after your "safe" call/signal.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

probably follow it up with a "Time" right after your "safe" call/signal.

No, why? He'll be back on the base in 1 second. Do you call time to allow a runner who has legally overrun 1B to get back on the base?

I don't call time unless I absolutely have to.

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by ggk

BRD 425 nails it - the mlb interp states that "if a runner going into a base does not have body control, he is out when a hard tag knocks him off the base. BRD also references the history of the ruling and the gant/hrbek play.


in the sit with rollins the runner slid awkwardly and did not have body control. great call

As an INF I was always taught that when you apply the tag, you hold it on on the runners lower leg and give them a little nudge just in case they cant stay on the bag. I didnt see the rollins play, but it sounds like a good fundamental play, no different than a hard slide to break up a DP.

just my .02