Tichenor exudes awesome awesomeness

[Fittske]

As an ex-catcher I will say that Varitek did what he was suppose to do to keep his pitcher in the game. The catcher can be replaced, but loosing a pitcher could have bigger ramifications to the bullpen. I'm sure Varitek knew as soon as he turned around that he would be toast, but it worked. After that outburst somebody had to go..... Varitek decided it would be him.

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by Fittske

As an ex-catcher I will say that Varitek did what he was suppose to do to keep his pitcher in the game.

Varitek is not a good catcher in general, and what he did was completely idiotic, which is only slightly less idiotic than what Beckett did.

[jwwashburn]

My guess is that Varitek probably thought that Beckett was going to get dumped and he figured he had a chance of taking Beckett's place.

It looked like it worked. What about what Varitek did was idiotic?

Are you a Yankees fan?

[Nigel Tufnel]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

Varitek is not a good catcher in general, and what he did was completely idiotic, which is only slightly less idiotic than what Beckett did.

I'm sorry, but what you know about baseball could fit on the head of a tack...
That pitch was worthy of a strike...MLB to Connie Mack all the way down to little league....

Beckett was not showing up anybody, but showing frustration at the expense of an umpire who should have called a strike...Varitek protected his pitcher....
Watch it 4 or 10 times til you get what baseball is all about

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel

I'm sorry, but what you know about baseball could fit on the head of a tack...
That pitch was worthy of a strike...MLB to Connie Mack all the way down to little league....

Beckett was not showing up anybody, but showing frustration at the expense of an umpire who should have called a strike...Varitek protected his pitcher....
Watch it 4 or 10 times til you get what baseball is all about

Pulled pitch, just outside. What's smaller than a tack? I'll send it your way.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Pulled pitch, just outside. What's smaller than a tack? I'll send it your way.

Probably your strike zone

[SanDiegoSteve]

Good one!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel

Probably your strike zone

When I get to the major leagues, I'll make sure I call that a ball.

I don't brag about the size of my strike zone. I'm sure it's smaller than some and larger than others. But I do my damnest to get every pitch in the zone -- I try not to miss a strike without making them up as I go along.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

When I get to the major leagues, I'll make sure I call that a ball.

I don't brag about the size of my strike zone. I'm sure it's smaller than some and larger than others. But I do my damnest to get every pitch in the zone -- I try not to miss a strike without making them up as I go along.

Good for you Rich! I love spending 3 hours at the ballpark

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel

I'm sorry, but what you know about baseball could fit on the head of a tack...
That pitch was worthy of a strike...MLB to Connie Mack all the way down to little league....

Beckett was not showing up anybody, but showing frustration at the expense of an umpire who should have called a strike...Varitek protected his pitcher....
Watch it 4 or 10 times til you get what baseball is all about

Aw, did your widdle Wed Sox get a ball called on them? Waaaaaaaah.

Look here...Brian knows plenty about baseball. I would put his baseball knowledge up against anyone else on this forum.

Varitek is a tool, and deserved to get run. So the umpire maybe missed a pitch? What, you've never missed a pitch? Get real. When you turn around to argue with the umpire, you are showing him up. If you don't know that, then there is plenty of room on the head of that tack.

Beckett is lucky he didn't get run for screaming the obscenity, which was most certainly personal for the umpire. But that doesn't excuse Varitek's actions, protecting his pitcher or not. He can't stay in the game.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Aw, did your widdle Wed Sox get a ball called on them? Waaaaaaaah.

Look here...Brian knows plenty about baseball. I would put his baseball knowledge up against anyone else on this forum.

Varitek is a tool, and deserved to get run. So the umpire maybe missed a pitch? What, you've never missed a pitch? Get real. When you turn around to argue with the umpire, you are showing him up. If you don't know that, then there is plenty of room on the head of that tack.

Beckett is lucky he didn't get run for screaming the obscenity, which was most certainly personal for the umpire. But that doesn't excuse Varitek's actions, protecting his pitcher or not. He can't stay in the game.

Far from a sox fan...
Seems to me being the 7th inning, and Beckett's reaction, he missed more than one pitch during the game...

Varitek gets run plain and simple for his actions...but don't back Brian when he calls him a poor catcher...I only answered this cause it pisses me off when people send out generalities like this.

Oh yeah, and I never slice...

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel

Seems to me being the 7th inning, and Beckett's reaction, he missed more than one pitch during the game...

You're basing your idea of how Tichenor's zone was by the player's reactions? I guess that's all we need to hear.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel

...but don't back Brian when he calls him a poor catcher...I only answered this cause it pisses me off when people send out generalities like this.

Brian did not say that Varitek was a poor catcher. He said he "is not a good in catcher general," which is a correct statement. Varitek is a rather average catcher, as major league catchers go.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Brian did not say that Varitek was a poor catcher. He said he "is not a good in general," which is a correct statement. Varitek is a rather average catcher, as major league catchers go.

10) Boston invested in pitching, not the dumbest position in baseball
9) Varitek is a solid gold glove candidate {Mauer, Pudge, Molina and Varitek}
8) Boston never had to deal with "manny" issues on offense, until now
7) Varitek's stats are better than most of the fantasy league catchers
6) Boston did not go out and sign the best catcher not under contract
5) Varitek may catch the most valuable pitches in baseball
4) Boston happy with Varitek's offense,
Jason Varitek - Boston Red Sox - News - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
3) Varitek prefers 1B, but 1B Youkilis will not squat behind the plate
2) Boston's Tim Wakefield will make anyone look average
1) Varitek does everthing except mop the floor and turn off the lights

missed the sarcasm

[SAump]

Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel

Far from a sox fan...
Seems to me being the 7th inning, and Beckett's reaction, he missed more than one pitch during the game...

Varitek gets run plain and simple for his actions...but don't back Brian when he calls him a poor catcher...I only answered this cause it pisses me off when people send out generalities like this.

Oh yeah, and I never slice...

On the Beckett highlight real, Tichenor is calling those 3rd strikes inside a pretty good zone. Appears Beckett is the one under pressure to perform. Listen to the announcers complain about a previous Beckett pitch that Tichenor may have missed earlier in the game.

On the Mauer vs Beckett video, Varitek frames a low 0-1 ball {at 1:20} and the next 0-2 outside pitch is called a strike {at 1.26} that may have been ball 3. Joe Mauer didn't react the way Beckett did. Difficult to tell how many times a bad call may have happened {waiting for Strike Zone data}, but there is not enough evidence to point the finger at Tichenor's zone.

Redmon tossed for running toward the umpire.
Gardenhire doesn't need an explanation. Defending his player is a BS excuse.
Beckett should have been tossed/warned for his actions.
Varitek had to go. Besides, he already had two homers.
Francona doesn't need an explanation. Defending his player is a BS excuse.