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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 01:38am
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Varitek is not a good catcher in general, and what he did was completely idiotic, which is only slightly less idiotic than what Beckett did.
I'm sorry, but what you know about baseball could fit on the head of a tack...
That pitch was worthy of a strike...MLB to Connie Mack all the way down to little league....

Beckett was not showing up anybody, but showing frustration at the expense of an umpire who should have called a strike...Varitek protected his pitcher....
Watch it 4 or 10 times til you get what baseball is all about
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 02:05am
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I'm sorry, but what you know about baseball could fit on the head of a tack...
That pitch was worthy of a strike...MLB to Connie Mack all the way down to little league....

Beckett was not showing up anybody, but showing frustration at the expense of an umpire who should have called a strike...Varitek protected his pitcher....
Watch it 4 or 10 times til you get what baseball is all about
Pulled pitch, just outside. What's smaller than a tack? I'll send it your way.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 11:28am
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Pulled pitch, just outside. What's smaller than a tack? I'll send it your way.

Probably your strike zone
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 11:30am
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 10:11pm
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Probably your strike zone
When I get to the major leagues, I'll make sure I call that a ball.

I don't brag about the size of my strike zone. I'm sure it's smaller than some and larger than others. But I do my damnest to get every pitch in the zone -- I try not to miss a strike without making them up as I go along.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 11:26pm
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When I get to the major leagues, I'll make sure I call that a ball.

I don't brag about the size of my strike zone. I'm sure it's smaller than some and larger than others. But I do my damnest to get every pitch in the zone -- I try not to miss a strike without making them up as I go along.
Good for you Rich! I love spending 3 hours at the ballpark
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From a slightly biased point of view,

okay, since Tich is a family friend as has been as long as I can remember, I am a little biased. My old man and him used to work Juco ball together, and Tich lives down the street. IMO, all 4 ejections looked EXTREMELY valid. probably restating a bunch of other opinions, but
EJ 1- catcher, or any other player for that matter, jumps up in my face screaming, yelling, gesturing etc.,must have had onions for dinner. hes gone.
EJ 2- coach comes out to defend, obviously lost his temper, he was given a longer leash, hes gone too.
EJ 3- Varitek pulled the pitch in. no doubt about it. might have at least issued beckett a warning, but the instant varitek turns around, buhbye now.
EJ 4- Francona gets in my face, gone.
All four looked extremely legit, and I would back him on them in a heartbeat, as would most of you, and especially if you were working the game with him. Hands down, regardless of missed calls, the ejections were warranted. way to go tich
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Old Sun May 31, 2009, 08:55am
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Good for you Rich! I love spending 3 hours at the ballpark
How can you criticize the strike zone of someone you've never met and have never seen work?
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Old Sun May 31, 2009, 10:08am
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Good for you Rich! I love spending 3 hours at the ballpark
And for someone that knows everything about baseball, you need to spend a lot more hours there too.

Another obvious statement by me, thank you.
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I'm sorry, but what you know about baseball could fit on the head of a tack...
That pitch was worthy of a strike...MLB to Connie Mack all the way down to little league....

Beckett was not showing up anybody, but showing frustration at the expense of an umpire who should have called a strike...Varitek protected his pitcher....
Watch it 4 or 10 times til you get what baseball is all about
Aw, did your widdle Wed Sox get a ball called on them? Waaaaaaaah.

Look here...Brian knows plenty about baseball. I would put his baseball knowledge up against anyone else on this forum.

Varitek is a tool, and deserved to get run. So the umpire maybe missed a pitch? What, you've never missed a pitch? Get real. When you turn around to argue with the umpire, you are showing him up. If you don't know that, then there is plenty of room on the head of that tack.

Beckett is lucky he didn't get run for screaming the obscenity, which was most certainly personal for the umpire. But that doesn't excuse Varitek's actions, protecting his pitcher or not. He can't stay in the game.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 11:39am
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Aw, did your widdle Wed Sox get a ball called on them? Waaaaaaaah.

Look here...Brian knows plenty about baseball. I would put his baseball knowledge up against anyone else on this forum.

Varitek is a tool, and deserved to get run. So the umpire maybe missed a pitch? What, you've never missed a pitch? Get real. When you turn around to argue with the umpire, you are showing him up. If you don't know that, then there is plenty of room on the head of that tack.

Beckett is lucky he didn't get run for screaming the obscenity, which was most certainly personal for the umpire. But that doesn't excuse Varitek's actions, protecting his pitcher or not. He can't stay in the game.
Far from a sox fan...
Seems to me being the 7th inning, and Beckett's reaction, he missed more than one pitch during the game...

Varitek gets run plain and simple for his actions...but don't back Brian when he calls him a poor catcher...I only answered this cause it pisses me off when people send out generalities like this.

Oh yeah, and I never slice...
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 12:00pm
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Seems to me being the 7th inning, and Beckett's reaction, he missed more than one pitch during the game...
You're basing your idea of how Tichenor's zone was by the player's reactions? I guess that's all we need to hear.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 05:58pm
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...but don't back Brian when he calls him a poor catcher...I only answered this cause it pisses me off when people send out generalities like this.
Brian did not say that Varitek was a poor catcher. He said he "is not a good in catcher general," which is a correct statement. Varitek is a rather average catcher, as major league catchers go.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 09:44pm
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Brian did not say that Varitek was a poor catcher. He said he "is not a good in general," which is a correct statement. Varitek is a rather average catcher, as major league catchers go.
10) Boston invested in pitching, not the dumbest position in baseball
9) Varitek is a solid gold glove candidate {Mauer, Pudge, Molina and Varitek}
8) Boston never had to deal with "manny" issues on offense, until now
7) Varitek's stats are better than most of the fantasy league catchers
6) Boston did not go out and sign the best catcher not under contract
5) Varitek may catch the most valuable pitches in baseball
4) Boston happy with Varitek's offense,
Jason Varitek - Boston Red Sox - News - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
3) Varitek prefers 1B, but 1B Youkilis will not squat behind the plate
2) Boston's Tim Wakefield will make anyone look average
1) Varitek does everthing except mop the floor and turn off the lights

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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 10:01pm
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Here is the opening answer

"Nigel for $200, the answer is: 'The poster of the most clueless statement about an MLB umpire's zone in this thread.'"

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