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Old Mon Apr 06, 2009, 04:13pm
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You don't think one of the managers (or both) will ask you after the game why you didn't fix it?
Then you ask them why they didn't file a protest or ask him to ask for help.

You stick your nose in your partner's call, you cut his legs out from under him. It's that simple.
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Old Mon Apr 06, 2009, 05:06pm
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I have INT also, in both cases, but let's discuss the bigger question that has been raised here.

Let's say you are BU, and with R1 stealing the batter interferes with catcher's throw. PU properly calls INT, then calls R1 out and leaves the batter at the plate. No one argues, clearly the defense is better off so if the defensive coach knows the rule he is not saying. Offensive coach clearly does not know the rule and PU does not either, but you the BU do.

No judgment call involved here, clearly rule mis-application. And some will stick that info in their pocket and post game this?

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Old Mon Apr 06, 2009, 07:11pm
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Then you ask them why they didn't file a protest or ask him to ask for help.

You stick your nose in your partner's call, you cut his legs out from under him. It's that simple.
In the OP the poster initiated the consultation on his own. Do you really think the offended manager, knowing the rule, wouldn't have initiated an "ask for help" request?

In the OP it got fixed before it got to the protest point. A protest wasn't necessary.

Would you let a partner get away with a "strike two- - you're out" call?

It's that simple.
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Old Mon Apr 06, 2009, 07:27pm
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In the OP the poster initiated the consultation on his own.
Which was absolutely wrong.

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Do you really think the offended manager, knowing the rule, wouldn't have initiated an "ask for help" request?
The OP makes no mention of whether that manager knew the rule or not. I've seen plenty of times where knowledgeable managers have chosen not to pursue a legitimate issue after perfunctory argument.

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In the OP it got fixed before it got to the protest point. A protest wasn't necessary.
Oh, yes, it was.

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Would you let a partner get away with a "strike two- - you're out" call?
I wouldn't have to. If it was a case of a missed count, then he can rectify it--it's his count, and if he wants my input, he can ask for it. If it was a case of knowingly calling an out with two strikes, it's going to get to the stage where I am required by rule to provide input. If, by some happenstance, the offense doesn't protest, I'm not saying jack.
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