When is a conference charged?

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

You seem to be confused about the two rules.

FED - the conference ends when the coach leaves the mound and crosses the foul line (going back to the dugout). The coach can leave the mound, head to the foul line, turn and meet with F3, just as long as he does not cross the foul line.

OBR - the visit ends the moment the manager's feet touch the infield grass (leaves the dirt of the mound). He cannot meet with anyone else once he leaves the dirt of the mound for any reason. He must continue into the dugout. The foul line does not come into play for ending the visit as it does in FED.

Fully aware of both rules. That is not the argument here.

Refer to the original post: Manager makes pitching change, walks back to the dugout, then walks back onto the field to second baseman. Umpire informs manager that he was charged a conference as he is walking back to the dugout.

You can't charge a conference because the umpire should have disallowed the meeting between the manager and second baseman to happen.

I really want to see the rule you are trying to apply that allows an umpire to charge a conference after a pitching change but before the pitcher has faced a batter or a third out is made.

[skinner51]

Hey guys, I thank all of you for your posts. I do admit that I left out one bit of info in the original post; the umpire did indeed inform the coach that his return visit would be his 2nd official charged conference. (The first had occurred an inning earlier). Coach was not charged for making the P.C., just his return visit. The PU told the coach he had 1 remaining conference after the coach started to return after confering with the defense out by 2nd base.