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Old Tue Mar 10, 2009, 10:23am
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And that rule is:

3-3-1 A coach, player, substitute, attendant or other bench personnel shall
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i. have any object in his possession in the coach’s box other than a stopwatch, rule book, scorebook, a Personal Digital Assistant (PDA) or comparable electronic score-recording device which shall be used for scorekeeping purposes only

Exactly. There is little difference between a coach taking the time to keep a written scorebook and doing it electronically. Neither is ideal, but nether is illegal.

As far as FED's current lack of a helmet rule for base coaches: It has been reported that since there is no approved "coach's helmet", at least by NOCSAE, FED's attorney advised a "wait and see" position for this season rather than mandating something that could possibly fail to perform.

As noted, NCAA, MiLB and MLB have taken a different route.
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Old Tue Mar 10, 2009, 10:42am
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Considering that the helmet that is now being worn at the college and pro level has no ear flap, it doesn't even cover the area where Coach Mike Coolbaugh was struck, causing his death.

It's the same perfunctory motion that motorcycle riders go through to comply with a helmet law they think is bunk. The little bowl on your head won't save you, but you'll be following the rule.
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Old Tue Mar 10, 2009, 06:11pm
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It's the same perfunctory motion that motorcycle riders go through to comply with a helmet law they think is bunk. The little bowl on your head won't save you, but you'll be following the rule.
Helmet Laws Suck
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Old Tue Mar 10, 2009, 09:11pm
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Helmet Laws Suck
As someone who smacked his head on the pavement while trying to make a left turn one day, I disagree.
Full helmet. Barely moving. Spun on some gravel in the median. I was out for ten minutes, or so the people who carried me to the sidewalk told me.

You are welcome to not wear a helmet if you can also clean up your brain-splatter mess after you crash. I surmise you also don't wear a seat belt and your family won't miss you when you're gone.
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Old Tue Mar 10, 2009, 09:40pm
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Helmets are designed to decrease not prevent head injuries. They are tested to the equivelent of a five foot fall. Inertia or speed is not considered a factor. That five foot fall is reported to be the equivelent of 13MPH. That's all. Which is what the HURT study tested to and DOT requires. Study after study confirms that there is very little...less than one percent difference in head injuries between states that do and don't require helmets. I would suggest a rider safety class if you fell while not really going very fast.

And yes....HELMET LAWS SUCK
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Old Wed Mar 11, 2009, 04:26am
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You are welcome to not wear a helmet if you can also clean up your brain-splatter mess after you crash.
Wow, that doesn't even make sense, dude. Where did you come up with that pearl of wisdom? Did this brain injury just happen today?

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I surmise you also don't wear a seat belt and your family won't miss you when you're gone.
I don't know why you would surmise such a thing. It's quite a leap in logic from disagreeing with helmet laws to not wearing seat belts. How does that correlate? And then to say such a thing about my family? Wow, dude. Again, did the brain injury just happen today?
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Take it to the motorcycle forum.
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Old Thu Mar 12, 2009, 09:56pm
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Take it to the motorcycle forum.
Did it get deleted?
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Old Thu Mar 12, 2009, 12:58am
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Looks like we lost site of my original post....What a surprise. I agree with many of the posts in that it's the coaches demise if he gets hit. I just feel that if MLB, MiLB and NCAA require it, that it would be a no brainer (no pun intended) for Fed to follow. My main concern is assistant coaches entering stats on their PDA and NOT paying attention to the game. Whether ear flaps are worn or not, whether a helmet is worn or not. PAY ATTENTION.

That being said, I will NOT wear a HSM if they become mandated for umpires. I have tried and cannot stand them. I will turn in my gear and start reffing girls soccer. Not a double standard. But in 28 years I have never had the need for a helmet. Knock on wood!!!
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That being said, I will NOT wear a HSM if they become mandated for umpires. I have tried and cannot stand them. I will turn in my gear and start reffing girls soccer. Not a double standard. But in 28 years I have never had the need for a helmet. Knock on wood!!!
I too would turn in my gear. The cage I have is fine.
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That being said, I will NOT wear a HSM if they become mandated for umpires. I have tried and cannot stand them. I will turn in my gear and start reffing girls soccer. Not a double standard. But in 28 years I have never had the need for a helmet. Knock on wood!!!
Klokard,

What would you do if FED mandated helmets not just for coaches (a la MLB, MiLb, & NCAA), but also for Base Umpires?

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Looks like we lost site of my original post....What a surprise.
Check page 1. I believe you can find it there.
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