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Old Thu Mar 12, 2009, 12:58am
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Looks like we lost site of my original post....What a surprise. I agree with many of the posts in that it's the coaches demise if he gets hit. I just feel that if MLB, MiLB and NCAA require it, that it would be a no brainer (no pun intended) for Fed to follow. My main concern is assistant coaches entering stats on their PDA and NOT paying attention to the game. Whether ear flaps are worn or not, whether a helmet is worn or not. PAY ATTENTION.

That being said, I will NOT wear a HSM if they become mandated for umpires. I have tried and cannot stand them. I will turn in my gear and start reffing girls soccer. Not a double standard. But in 28 years I have never had the need for a helmet. Knock on wood!!!
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Old Thu Mar 12, 2009, 01:46am
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That being said, I will NOT wear a HSM if they become mandated for umpires. I have tried and cannot stand them. I will turn in my gear and start reffing girls soccer. Not a double standard. But in 28 years I have never had the need for a helmet. Knock on wood!!!
I too would turn in my gear. The cage I have is fine.
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W Sohl, your meaning? The HSM is not a guarantee against injury. The reason for the ear flaps and associated protection for catchers is due to the fact that they are involved in plays. If as an umpire you turn your head and offer up your ears to a batted or thrown ball, that is a mechanic issue. Again, in 28 years, I have never been hit in the ears or open part of my head. The foul tip that caught Kerwin Danley and put him down was a once in a million shot and a HSM may or may not have prevented it. I don't look down on people wearing the HSM I just prefer the option of not having to. I don't even wear the added throat protector that some umpires choose to wear.
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W Sohl, your meaning? The HSM is not a guarantee against injury. The reason for the ear flaps and associated protection for catchers is due to the fact that they are involved in plays. If as an umpire you turn your head and offer up your ears to a batted or thrown ball, that is a mechanic issue. Again, in 28 years, I have never been hit in the ears or open part of my head. The foul tip that caught Kerwin Danley and put him down was a once in a million shot and a HSM may or may not have prevented it. I don't look down on people wearing the HSM I just prefer the option of not having to. I don't even wear the added throat protector that some umpires choose to wear.
I'm agreeing with you. I don't use the HSM, I have the cage style or whatever you call it. I also wear the extra throat guard. I don't offer my ears to foul balls, I keep my focus towards the field of play and on the ball during an AB. I feel the mask that I have is plenty of protection and I am not spending the money on a HSM. If it ever becomes mandatory, I will look for another spring sport to officiate. I've always wanted a starters pistol.
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That being said, I will NOT wear a HSM if they become mandated for umpires. I have tried and cannot stand them. I will turn in my gear and start reffing girls soccer. Not a double standard. But in 28 years I have never had the need for a helmet. Knock on wood!!!
Klokard,

What would you do if FED mandated helmets not just for coaches (a la MLB, MiLb, & NCAA), but also for Base Umpires?

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Old Thu Mar 12, 2009, 10:19pm
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Klokard,

What would you do if FED mandated helmets not just for coaches (a la MLB, MiLb, & NCAA), but also for Base Umpires?

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Old Thu Mar 12, 2009, 10:23pm
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Klokard,

What would you do if FED mandated helmets not just for coaches (a la MLB, MiLb, & NCAA), but also for Base Umpires?

JM

Just curious. Who would enforce such a rule? Would the PU toss the BU if he refused? Maybe a coach or AD?

I, too, would be gone at that point.
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Just curious. Who would enforce such a rule? Would the PU toss the BU if he refused? Maybe a coach or AD?

I, too, would be gone at that point.
MrUmpire,

I imagine they would just hire Larry Bowa to be commissioner of enforcement.

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Old Thu Mar 12, 2009, 01:16pm
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Coach. Not sure what I would do. I can only hope it doesn't happen in my career.
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Looks like we lost site of my original post....What a surprise.
Check page 1. I believe you can find it there.
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