Courtesy Runner/Substitution

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by mikebran

A confusing thread after a decent question. Can I get the 101 answer?

Reiterate:

After BATTER(SS) double and time, coach comes to me to place legal SUB (pinch runner) for BATTER(SS) on 2nd.

Now several things could have happened, depending on the PU.

1. If it was me, lineup card comes out and I would IMMEDIATELY notice that SS had been pinch ran for earlier and SS was a reenter. I would MENTION this. Isn't this easy Preventative Umpiring?

2. Or SKIPPY the PU, who does not Preventative Umpire, simply records legal change as directed by Manager. PU informs other bench of change.

Question: When does change become official or irreversible? Upon announcement to other bench?

So seconds after to announce change, Manager comes to you and goes, Oh No My Bad! I screwed Up. I forgot I had subbed him earlier.

tough noogies?

It would seem that in a competitive HS game. Other bench is going to take advantage of coach screw up. Not going to allow a do - over.

Preventative umpiring is the best practice for subs. If you have your lineup card out and clearly see that the coach is making an illegal sub, just simply say "coach you can't do that."

In your play, what the coach is doing is legal. When he goes to sub someone for the SS I would say "Ok, the SS is done for the day now." If he then replies with "Oh wait nevermind," then I will disallow the sub and keep the SS in the game. If he replies with "ok" (or something similar to show that he indeed knows the SS is done for the day), then I will allow the sub as normal.

Hope that helps!