Does the run count?

[johnnyg08]

the homerun is not an automatic award. the base on balls is and award of first base and an additional base to those forced to advance. a home run is a free pass to advance and touch all four bases...therefore all baserunning rules apply...that's my thought...other thoughts?

[greymule]

However, this play has always confused me. Contrast with this play: Bases loaded, 2 outs, Home run, the BR passes R1 before R3 touches home - this is a time play and no runs score (even though everyone was awarded home).

Can someone tell me the difference here please?

The difference is declared out versus put out.

the homerun is not an automatic award.

It is a four-base award.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Since it is right there in the rule book, why don't I just post the ruling and make it easy on everybody:

Rule 7.04(b) Comment: A runner forced to advance without liability to be put out may advance past the base to which he is entitled only at his peril. If such a runner, forced to advance, is put out for the third out before a preceding runner, also forced to advance, touches home plate, the run shall score.

Play. Two out, bases full, batter walks but runner from second is overzealous and runs past third base toward home and is tagged out on a throw by the catcher. Even though two are out, the run would score on the theory that the run was forced home by the base on balls and that all the runners needed to do was proceed and touch the next base.

[justanotherblue]

I'll be nice....I'll be nice....I'll be nice.....

It's not working...so...ah hell never mind

[greymule]

Since it is right there in the rule book, why don't I just post the ruling and make it easy on everybody:

Thank you, Steve. Good idea.

Keep in mind that if R3 (before scoring) interfered with F2's throw to third, R3 would be out and his run would not score. Or if an overzealous R1 passed R2 before R3 scored, the run would also not count.