Let their mistakes work for you

[lawump]

There were two types of persons at my umpire school in 1997.

There were the "Tim C" types, and there was everyone else.

On the first day of school, every instructor was a "Tim C" type, and every student was an "everyone else".

On the last day of school, every instructor was a "Tim C" type, a few students were "Tim C" types, and most students were still "everyone else".

The few students at the end who had become "Tim C" types were also packing to go to PBUC.

I hope to GOD that all the people who are posting in this thread about Tim C's "attitude" AREN'T planning to go to umpire school anytime in the future.

My chief instructor at umpire school, Jeff Nelson's comments, make Tim C's look like Mr. compassionate. (And I can say, emphatically, after getting "in the game" that Jeff is one of the game's truly good guys.)

[waltjp]

There is a difference between attending a school and being told straight what you're doing wrong and asking an evaluator for comments following a game.

The guy Griff described is just a dick.

Do you really think the Griff wouldn't have worked on A, B and C if the evaluator mentioned he needs work on A, B and C?

[Matt]

Originally Posted by lawump

There were two types of persons at my umpire school in 1997.

There were the "Tim C" types, and there was everyone else.

On the first day of school, every instructor was a "Tim C" type, and every student was an "everyone else".

On the last day of school, every instructor was a "Tim C" type, a few students were "Tim C" types, and most students were still "everyone else".

The few students at the end who had become "Tim C" types were also packing to go to PBUC.

I hope to GOD that all the people who are posting in this thread about Tim C's "attitude" AREN'T planning to go to umpire school anytime in the future.

My chief instructor at umpire school, Jeff Nelson's comments, make Tim C's look like Mr. compassionate. (And I can say, emphatically, after getting "in the game" that Jeff is one of the game's truly good guys.)

There's a difference, though. I first had the pleasure of talking to Jeff when I was in my teens. He knows there's a time and place for everything.

[L.A. Umpire Guy]

Some parents mistreat and browbeat their children, because it is what their parents did and it seemed to work for them.

It does work--for a very small percentage of human beings.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Okay, it's time for all of us to join hands and sing Cumbaya!

Tim C, you lead us, please...

[MrUmpire]

From what I've seen here, TimC knows his stuff and teaches it well. His style may not be for everyone. BFD.

As I used to tell college students who complained about certain professor's teaching styles..."You can choose to learn from him or you can find another instructor."

On this board, there seems to be a third alternative that some choose. They whine.

[SethPDX]

Well, "this Tim C. guy" has a big role in training in his association. I do not belong to it, but I work with guys who do, and when I mention his name they all vouch for his wide array of knowledge and straightforward style. He also has taken a key role in training all baseball umpires in his state. I live in his city and though I have never met him I would certainly listen carefully to anything he ever said to me.

And I agree with Ozzy: Nothing can be offensive unless you take it that way.

[L.A. Umpire Guy]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

From what I've seen here, TimC knows his stuff and teaches it well. His style may not be for everyone. BFD.

As I used to tell college students who complained about certain professor's teaching styles..."You can choose to learn from him or you can find another instructor."

On this board, there seems to be a third alternative that some choose. They whine.

A lot of people seem to react just like you--as an exclusive individual, instead of a member of a fraternity.

"Knows his stuff ..." Most certainly; I never said anything to the contrary. "Teaches it well ..."

I'm sorry, ... but there would never be an issue if he were to simply teach it well.

And I can and do learn from anyone. I would love to share this vocation with anyone who could possibly be a credit to the game. And that is exactly what I attempt to do. I just don't accept that there are guys like Tim C. or the guy Griff described who choose to be haughty and exclusive and reflect so dimly on what can otherwise be a fine vocation.

That's all.

[bob jenkins]

This threasd has certainly run it's course. I meant to close it last night after I posted my "discard it if you don't agree with it" post. Obviously I hit the wrong button.