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UmpTTS43 Tue Aug 26, 2008 04:35pm

Let their mistakes work for you
 
There has been a lot of discussions going on about how bad the LL and MLB guys are. With TV the way it is today, we are going to see a lot more calls that are questionable. So instead of b*tchin and moanin, use those mistakes to make yourself better. Ask yourself "Why did he miss that call," or "what would I do in that same situation?" I'm sure after reviewing mistakes that are made, they try to figure out what went wrong. Put your jealosy and envy aside. And believe me, when it comes down to it, you're not as good as you think you are. I include myself in that assesment as well. I would love to tape one of you "they suck" guys and show you your many flaws. It's easy being the best and all knowing umpire when it comes to the internet.

Tim C Tue Aug 26, 2008 04:48pm

Hmmm,
 
And the purpose of this post is . . . ?

Regards,

canadaump6 Tue Aug 26, 2008 05:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C
And the purpose of this post is . . . ?

Regards,

Please see title...

Tim C Tue Aug 26, 2008 05:24pm

Hmmm,
 
Please see my original post.

UmpTTS43 Tue Aug 26, 2008 05:38pm

Just venting a little I guess, Tim. Helps me keep my perspective.

Take it for what it's worth. Thought I might be able to drum up some constructive dialog.

SanDiegoSteve Tue Aug 26, 2008 05:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim C
And the purpose of this post is . . . ?

Regards,

I guess it was to tell us how much we really suck, when we really don't suck, I dunno.

It ain't so easy being the best all knowing and seeing umpires on the internet. It's a hard job, but somebody has to do it!;)

canadaump6 Tue Aug 26, 2008 07:07pm

Tee,

I think the original poster's point was that we should try and learn from the mistakes we see televised umpires make, so that we don't make these mistakes ourselves. It's a good idea, but a lot of the mistakes these guys make are mechanical, and most of us already know the correct mechanic.

Out of curiousity Tee, how good are you (strikezone, game management, judgment calls, mechanics, rules knowledge, etc)?

TussAgee11 Tue Aug 26, 2008 07:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadaump6
Out of curiousity Tee, how good are you (strikezone, game management, judgment calls, mechanics, rules knowledge, etc)?

Enough better than you to where you should take his advice and thank him every time he gives it to you.

Jim Camp Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:08am

I agree with learning from MY MISTAKES and others. I have never had an evaluation that was perfect. With as many 2 and 3 man camps I have been to I still have never worked that perfect game. ( always striving for but haven't achieved yet). Umpires should never bash the other brothers that have the BALLS to umpire what ever level they do. So I would say always try and learn from every umpire that you see work or that you work with.We can always find ways to improve our games whether we are seasoned veterans or the newest umpire. Just my thoughts.

UmpJM Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:41am

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadaump6
Tee,

...

Out of curiousity Tee, how good are you (strikezone, game management, judgment calls, mechanics, rules knowledge, etc)?

canadaump6,

Although I've only seen him work once (HS Varsity, 2-man), I'd have to say he's pretty f#@&in' good.

I think I might actually be a little better on "rules knowledge" than he is, but on all the other things you mention (which are actualy more important in terms of being a good umpire), I would have to say he's in a higher "league" than I.

JMO.

JM

canadaump6 Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TussAgee11
Enough better than you to where you should take his advice and thank him every time he gives it to you.

Way to make things confrontational.

bob jenkins Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadaump6
Way to make things confrontational.

He didn't make things confrontational. You asked a question, he answered it (and gave an answer to which I agree).

TussAgee11 Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadaump6
Way to make things confrontational.

If it makes you feel better, I gladly take his advice too...

justanotherblue Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:08am

We all make mistakes, we all miss pitches, we all boot a call from time to time. Were human. With time, experience (innings) and training we do this less and less. Unfortunately for those that work at a high enough level that there are t.v. cameras catching every move, when they do make a mistake, it's there for all to see. Personally, it makes me feel good to see the best of the best make a mistake once in a while, it shows there's hope for all of us yet. :D

johnnyg08 Wed Aug 27, 2008 01:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by justanotherblue
We all make mistakes, we all miss pitches, we all boot a call from time to time. Were human. With time, experience (innings) and training we do this less and less. Unfortunately for those that work at a high enough level that there are t.v. cameras catching every move, when they do make a mistake, it's there for all to see. Personally, it makes me feel good to see the best of the best make a mistake once in a while, it shows there's hope for all of us yet. :D

agreed


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