Let their mistakes work for you

[RPatrino]

Amen, brother Griff!!

[canadaump6]

I did not ask Tee to provoke him. I was just curious.

[johnnyg08]

IMO Tim has come off as a bit abrasive and sensitive on here...hopefully he doesn't carry that same attitude on the field...I'll never know and I'm okay with that.

[jkumpire]

You know what, I would give my left arm to be on TV, and be evaluated as an umpire by millions of people.

Heck, I would love to be evaluated by somebody. I may get that chance this Fall for the first time in years, to be evaluated by guys who know what is going on, as opposed to some clueless HS coach who doesn't even understand baseball, more or less umpiring.

I think it is great to have people discuss even your misses on a forum like this, because there is a ton of pressure to perform, and as a mentor of mine from years ago said: "Umpiring is one job where you have to be perfect the first day and get better after that."

Frankly, one of the problems a lot of umpires I see have is that they do not react well under pressure, or know how to deal with it. Part of it is they don't ever do games that have a lot of pressure in them, and part of it is they never stress themselves to get better. So when they move up a level, or get into a championship game, they don't know how to handle pressure. They freeze, or choke, and then they get discouraged, or quit.

Good sports officials understand pressure, they learn to love it, and live in it. That is when they are at their best. It is also a reason the best umpires get the best games, they not just know rules and mechanics and the unwritten rules, they know how to deal with a situation where there is a lot riding on this game/moment/call.

And watching the guys on TV, even LL guys in Williamsport is great because you can learn how to react in a pressure situation, or at least see guys perform under pressure. Even when MLB guys make mistakes, it is very instructive to see how they handle things, and how they respond. It is a lot better than most umpires, and it is worth seeing.

[PeteBooth]

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Originally Posted by johnnyg08

IMO Tim has come off as a bit abrasive and sensitive on here...

IMO, nothing can be further from the truth.

It is the opposite. Too many posters are sensitiive.

A poster starts an OP by asking for advice or comments on a particular play they had, baseball ruling they are unsure of or dealings with a coach or player.

They in turn receive T's advice/ comment on the situation based upon his experience in dealing with similar situations plus the tone of the OP. It's difficult sometimes to truly understand what a person is getting at without having that face-face discussion.


Tee will provide his commentary and then the poster will disagree with those comments etc. and then say that Tee is abrasive etc.

Therefore, if you do not want an opinion or critique then why bother asking in the first place.

As Ozzy I have never met Tee. I am from the East Coast and Tee is from the Left coast as we say in NY. From all my dealings on the internet with Tee he is a Straight-up guy. I would also like to work with him not only from a learning experience but because I would also have fun.


I learned because I was able to take constructive ctiticism. It's been my experience that when someone says nothing etc. that person does not give a rats you know what about you or could care less if you improve or not.

And No I have not always agreed with Tee but that's what the discussions are all about.

Pete Booth

[Rich]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

IMO Tim has come off as a bit abrasive and sensitive on here...hopefully he doesn't carry that same attitude on the field...I'll never know and I'm okay with that.

I'm with Pete Booth. It's others who are sensitive and get their feelings hurt way too easily.

[RPatrino]

If you get your feelings hurt by written words on an internet forum, what is gonna happen when you have a real live fire breathing, pickled tuna breath, vein popping HS varsity head coach on your ***? Put him on your iggy list??

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

If you get your feelings hurt by written words on an internet forum, what is gonna happen when you have a real live fire breathing, pickled tuna breath, vein popping HS varsity head coach on your ***? Put him on your iggy list??

The difference is that on the field there are times I expect a rat to come out of the hole breathing fire...on an internet discussion forum among adult, umpire colleagues, calling someone and idiot for a perfectly normal post, is not my idea of helping each other out and offering that constructive criticism...many of us in here can take the heat...not the blatant disrespect on an internet forum where umpires young and old come for advice and to discuss issues...

[RPatrino]

I don't think there is any blatant disrespect here, or maybe I haven't seen it personally. Healthy disagreement and/or passionatly held positions are a good thing to keep this forum alive.