Rob Drake's ejection

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by CO ump

That may be OK in LL. The seasoned umpire taking up for the fragile 13 yr old on the bases that's getting an earful from a daddy coach, but I don't see it here.

[B]I'll[B] take issue with that. If any manager came out of the dugout to argue a check swing, every one of my 13 year LL umpires would dump him in a heartbeat. They just got back from the weeklong in San Beradino, and are itching to have someone put one toe over the line.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Again I ask, WHAT SEASON did Chad Fairchild become a SEASONED umpire? He's a AAA umpire, so where has he gotten the tag, "seasoned," from?

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Again I ask, WHAT SEASON did Chad Fairchild become a SEASONED umpire? He's a AAA umpire, so where has he gotten the tag, "seasoned," from?

I believe it was 2005, on a flight to Denver, he got some extra oregano on his pasta primavera.

[CO ump]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Again I ask, WHAT SEASON did Chad Fairchild become a SEASONED umpire? He's a AAA umpire, so where has he gotten the tag, "seasoned," from?

I believe he's been around long enough to handle himself at first base.
You don't make it to MLB with out a season or two of experience.
And relative to my post Fairchild is seasoned enough to handle his own ejections.
If any MLB ump needs protecting as UES suggested he shouldn't be there

[socalblue1]

Originally Posted by CO ump

I believe he's been around long enough to handle himself at first base.
You don't make it to MLB with out a season or two of experience.
And relative to my post Fairchild is seasoned enough to handle his own ejections.
If any MLB ump needs protecting as UES suggested he shouldn't be there

Trust me, Chad can handle business when needed. I still suspect Lou said something that only Rob could hear, resulting in the ejection. Perhaps Rob could have done the mask off "What did you say big guy" routine to see if Lou would charge the plate bit he chose to simply dump him.

[MrUmpire]

This is not Chad Fairchild's first year working in MLB. As of June 29, he was tied for second in the most plate games worked in MLB.

This doesn't happen to "unseasoned" umpires.

[canadaump6]

The jock sniffers are out defending Rob Drake.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Again, the U.S. version of the meaning of "jock sniffer" must get lost in the Candadian translation. How does defending an umpire's actions (or even criticizing an umpire's actions) constitute jock sniffing?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by CO ump

I believe he's been around long enough to handle himself at first base.
You don't make it to MLB with out a season or two of experience.
And relative to my post Fairchild is seasoned enough to handle his own ejections.
If any MLB ump needs protecting as UES suggested he shouldn't be there

Okay, so a season or two is what you call "seasoned." That's all I wanted to know is what you considered seasoned. My standard for that designation is much higher than that. It is subjective in nature, then. Everyone has a different idea of what "seasoned" is. I guess my criteria is closer to "grizzled" than to "rookie."

[ozzy6900]

I think that 5 pages of arguing about AAA/MLB umpire is hilarious! Who cares, anyway! It was a great few moments of "show", the fans got their money's worth and TV announcers got to analyze the whole thing. Rob & Fairchild got paid, they will go back to AAA and get called back when needed. Again, who cares?

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Rob & Fairchild got paid, they will go back to AAA and get called back when needed. Again, who cares?

Drake, Guccione and others haven't gone back to AAA in years. They continue to work more MLB games than contracted MLB umpires. It is a disgrace what MLB gets away with.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Drake, Guccione and others haven't gone back to AAA in years. They continue to work more MLB games than contracted MLB umpires. It is a disgrace what MLB gets away with.

See! This shows you how much attention I pay to those that have made AAA & The Show. They have their own rules and management idiosyncrasies of which I am not a part of nor do I care about it. I have my own problems with rules, coaches and assignors!

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Drake, Guccione and others haven't gone back to AAA in years. They continue to work more MLB games than contracted MLB umpires. It is a disgrace what MLB gets away with.

To my knowledge, what MLB is doing does not violate the contract so, what is it they are "getting away with"?

It is not as if they are saying: we'll give you $100 and they give them $50 or giving them a veggie burger when they paid for steak. These guys know what the deal is.

Joe in Missouri

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Rob & Fairchild got paid, they will go back to AAA and get called back when needed.

Not only has Rob gone years without working AAA, I believe I read that Fairchild has been with that crew since the first game of the season.

[Tim C]

Please understand one thing about published umpire ejection numbers:

If there is a bench clearing brawl . . . fist fights . . . dog pile type situation the Home Plate Umpire is credited with any and all ejections. This can certain skew a number.

Regards,