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briancurtin Sun Jun 29, 2008 07:50pm

Rob Drake's ejection
 
Did anyone just see Drake toss Piniella? Can someone give me an example of a more horse**** ejection at the MLB level? I'm struggling to find one.

For those who didn't see it, Fairchild (at first) said the hitter didn't go on a half-swing, then Piniella comes out a little bit and Fairchild put his hand up and said not to come out. Lou has a few quick words from long distance, goes back towards the dugout, and Drake throws him out while Lou isn't even facing the field or either umpire.

Disclaimer: I'm a Cubs fan.

Rich Sun Jun 29, 2008 07:53pm

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Originally Posted by briancurtin
Did anyone just see Drake toss Piniella? Can someone give me an example of a more horse**** ejection at the MLB level? I'm struggling to find one.

For those who didn't see it, Fairchild (at first) said the hitter didn't go on a half-swing, then Piniella comes out a little bit and Fairchild put his hand up and said not to come out. Lou has a few quick words from long distance, goes back towards the dugout, and Drake throws him out while Lou isn't even facing the field or either umpire.

Disclaimer: I'm a Cubs fan.

Did he leave the dugout to argue balls and strikes?

briancurtin Sun Jun 29, 2008 07:58pm

Yes.

Other disclaimer: I'm not stupid.

Rich Sun Jun 29, 2008 07:59pm

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Originally Posted by briancurtin
Yes.

Other disclaimer: I'm not stupid.

Huh? If he came out to argue the check swing, he should go. Why is that a bad ejection?

briancurtin Sun Jun 29, 2008 08:02pm

He should go immediately then...not after letting him say a few words, return almost all the way to the dugout, and then run him. I'm not disagreeing that he should have been dumped, but it was handled terribly in my opinion, hence why I called it horse****.

It was as if it took Drake a while to realize what was even going on.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Jun 29, 2008 08:07pm

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Originally Posted by briancurtin
Yes.

Other disclaimer: I'm not stupid.

But you said you were a Cubs fan.

briancurtin Sun Jun 29, 2008 08:09pm

That actually made me laugh out loud.

SanDiegoSteve Sun Jun 29, 2008 08:12pm

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Originally Posted by briancurtin
That actually made me laugh out loud.

I do try. I'm a lifelong Sox fan. Boston and Chicago, my two favorite AL teams.:)

Rich Sun Jun 29, 2008 08:26pm

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Originally Posted by briancurtin
He should go immediately then...not after letting him say a few words, return almost all the way to the dugout, and then run him. I'm not disagreeing that he should have been dumped, but it was handled terribly in my opinion, hence why I called it horse****.

It was as if it took Drake a while to realize what was even going on.

Or Piniella uttered an "F You" as he walked off. How could we possibly know?

LeeBallanfant Sun Jun 29, 2008 08:28pm

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Originally Posted by briancurtin
Did anyone just see Drake toss Piniella? Can someone give me an example of a more horse**** ejection at the MLB level? I'm struggling to find one.

For those who didn't see it, Fairchild (at first) said the hitter didn't go on a half-swing, then Piniella comes out a little bit and Fairchild put his hand up and said not to come out. Lou has a few quick words from long distance, goes back towards the dugout, and Drake throws him out while Lou isn't even facing the field or either umpire.

Disclaimer: I'm a Cubs fan.

Scenario, Drake doesn't dump him, next inning Guillen comes out to argue balls and strikes with Drake. Dump him?

Fairchild has got to take blame for this one.

JRutledge Sun Jun 29, 2008 08:31pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
Huh? If he came out to argue the check swing, he should go. Why is that a bad ejection?

Because Brian is a Cubs fan. :D

Peace

Rich Sun Jun 29, 2008 08:34pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Because Brian is a Cubs fan. :D

Peace

At least they're winning, unlike my team.

JRutledge Sun Jun 29, 2008 08:50pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
At least they're winning, unlike my team.

Not right now they are not. ;)

Peace

DG Sun Jun 29, 2008 08:56pm

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Originally Posted by briancurtin
Did anyone just see Drake toss Piniella? Can someone give me an example of a more horse**** ejection at the MLB level? I'm struggling to find one.

For those who didn't see it, Fairchild (at first) said the hitter didn't go on a half-swing, then Piniella comes out a little bit and Fairchild put his hand up and said not to come out. Lou has a few quick words from long distance, goes back towards the dugout, and Drake throws him out while Lou isn't even facing the field or either umpire.

Disclaimer: I'm a Cubs fan.

Yep, I saw it. Completely legit toss in my view. He came out of the dugout a little more than a little bit, and quickly, and stopped only when Fairchild put his hand up and said not to come out (he was already out).

What I don't understand is why Fairchild had to do anything. Drake should have tossed him as soon as he came out of the dugout to argue.

Also don't understand why Drake did not call a strike on the swing, and why Fairchild also thought he did not go. It wasn't close to a checked swing from my view, even before the replay.

briancurtin Sun Jun 29, 2008 09:04pm

If he ejected him about 20 seconds earlier I would agree that it was completely legit. I think it was legit in that yes, he argued balls and strikes and had to go, but it was weakly and childishly done while Lou didn't even know about it. He actually tossed him (at least) twice as Lou wasn't even facing him and didn't even know it happened because he was leaving.

He waited too long and then got Lou way too late. Might as well have just waited until the next pitch.


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