Rob Drake's ejection

[DG]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

Did anyone just see Drake toss Piniella? Can someone give me an example of a more horse**** ejection at the MLB level? I'm struggling to find one.

For those who didn't see it, Fairchild (at first) said the hitter didn't go on a half-swing, then Piniella comes out a little bit and Fairchild put his hand up and said not to come out. Lou has a few quick words from long distance, goes back towards the dugout, and Drake throws him out while Lou isn't even facing the field or either umpire.

Disclaimer: I'm a Cubs fan.

Yep, I saw it. Completely legit toss in my view. He came out of the dugout a little more than a little bit, and quickly, and stopped only when Fairchild put his hand up and said not to come out (he was already out).

What I don't understand is why Fairchild had to do anything. Drake should have tossed him as soon as he came out of the dugout to argue.

Also don't understand why Drake did not call a strike on the swing, and why Fairchild also thought he did not go. It wasn't close to a checked swing from my view, even before the replay.

[briancurtin]

If he ejected him about 20 seconds earlier I would agree that it was completely legit. I think it was legit in that yes, he argued balls and strikes and had to go, but it was weakly and childishly done while Lou didn't even know about it. He actually tossed him (at least) twice as Lou wasn't even facing him and didn't even know it happened because he was leaving.

He waited too long and then got Lou way too late. Might as well have just waited until the next pitch.

[DG]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

If he ejected him about 20 seconds earlier I would agree that it was completely legit. I think it was legit in that yes, he argued balls and strikes and had to go, but it was weakly and childishly done while Lou didn't even know about it. He actually tossed him (at least) twice as Lou wasn't even facing him and didn't even know it happened because he was leaving.

He waited too long and then got Lou way too late. Might as well have just waited until the next pitch.

If your definition of a horse**** ejection is he waited 20 seconds too long I agree. If your concern was that it should not have happened at all I disagree. And I expect Lou knew it was going to happen when he came out of the dugout, at least that would be normal response.

[briancurtin]

Oh I know it should have happened, and I'm sure Lou was probably thinking the same as he was walking away...then it happened.

[JRutledge]

Anytime someone is ejected, the ejection is legit. The issue is whether you or I agree with it. Honestly, whether you or I agree with it is not the issue. We were not there and did not hear everything that was said. And if we did our opinion might completely change. I do not know how anyone can say while looking just on TV whether someone should not should not be ejected. Unless we hear everything that was said, we are only speculating.

Peace

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Anytime someone is ejected, the ejection is legit.

That makes as much sense as me saying the complete opposite.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

That makes as much sense as me saying the complete opposite.

Is that pretty much what you said, the opposite?

Peace

[briancurtin]

No.

[JRutledge]

Yes.

Peace

[bobbybanaduck]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

That makes as much sense as me saying the complete opposite.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The issue is whether you or I agree with it. Honestly, whether you or I agree with it is not the issue.

what?? the issue is either the issue or it isn't the issue. the issue can't possibly be the the issue AND not be the issue, it's not possible. something has to be the issue.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck

what?? the issue is either the issue or it isn't the issue. the issue can't possibly be the the issue AND not be the issue, it's not possible. something has to be the issue.

I'd like to take issue with this.

[kylejt]

Fairchild should have tossed him for coming out of the dugout, period.

Drake was cleaning up the mess that Fairchild started. An untimely mess, too, because Lou had his back turned when dumped. It was just bad timing by everyone.

Drake had an off night behind the dish, as I was yelling "WHAT!?" more than a couple times. It happens. The trouble with umpiring is that there's no one on the bench to relieve you in the fifth inning if it's just not your night.

[ozzy6900]

I always like seeing "Sweet Lou" getting dumped. In all these years, he hasn't learned that arguing balls & strikes is a quick ticket out. And his language hasn't improved either!