Rob Drake's ejection

[Lorothian]

Not really MRUMPIRE, how many ejections do you hear about in a year's time?? Across MLB?

Drake had 17 in one year alone.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by CO ump

That may be OK in LL. The seasoned umpire taking up for the fragile 13 yr old on the bases that's getting an earful from a daddy coach, but I don't see it here.

[B]I'll[B] take issue with that. If any manager came out of the dugout to argue a check swing, every one of my 13 year LL umpires would dump him in a heartbeat. They just got back from the weeklong in San Beradino, and are itching to have someone put one toe over the line.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Again I ask, WHAT SEASON did Chad Fairchild become a SEASONED umpire? He's a AAA umpire, so where has he gotten the tag, "seasoned," from?

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Again I ask, WHAT SEASON did Chad Fairchild become a SEASONED umpire? He's a AAA umpire, so where has he gotten the tag, "seasoned," from?

I believe it was 2005, on a flight to Denver, he got some extra oregano on his pasta primavera.

[CO ump]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Again I ask, WHAT SEASON did Chad Fairchild become a SEASONED umpire? He's a AAA umpire, so where has he gotten the tag, "seasoned," from?

I believe he's been around long enough to handle himself at first base.
You don't make it to MLB with out a season or two of experience.
And relative to my post Fairchild is seasoned enough to handle his own ejections.
If any MLB ump needs protecting as UES suggested he shouldn't be there

[RPatrino]

Egads, Matt!!! Oregano on pasta primavera?? You need more seasoning training!!..LOL

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Okay, I guess I have to ask it a different way, because this was meant to be neither "funny" nor a "quip."

One more time: What makes Chad Fairchild a seasoned umpire? He has not been umpiring long enough to qualify as a "seasoned" umpire. He is what is commonly referred to as a "fill-in umpire." When he has a few years of full-time MLB experience, we can then maybe call him a "seasoned umpire."

That was the only point I was making, because he was referred to as a "seasoned umpire."

Serious question Steve, would you call Chris Guccione or Rob Drake "seasoned" umpires? They've been around working MLB games for close to a decade now. No one is saying they're veteran MLB guys (even though they work more games per year than "full-time" guys), but where do you draw the line for "seasoning"? Is there X number of games, ejections, weird situations? Chad worked just about 10 games fewer than the full-timers last year, and has been with his crew since Opening Day this year. According to Retrosheet, he's worked 266 games from 2004-2007- it's not like he worked a Tampa-KC series in September last year for the first time.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by Chris_Hickman

You guys are still missing the point!!!!!!! Rob needs to do something with that hair.

Can't agree more, thanks for guiding us back to the real issue.

[jwwashburn]

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index...lb_1&mode=wrap

The ejection happens at the start of this recap. I think the video we see of Lou at the start is what he yelled right before the boot. Then, I think, we see it from a different angle.

That's F***ing Sh*t is what he said...REMARKABLE that the 1B Umpire did not run him.

Joe

[youngump]

So I went and looked at this and Drake is clearly wrong here. The swearing happens after the ejection. Fairchild seems to be the fellow who knows that 9.02c is in effect and Drake doesn't.
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Bubbler pipe

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by youngump

So I went and looked at this and Drake is clearly wrong here. The swearing happens after the ejection. Fairchild seems to be the fellow who knows that 9.02c is in effect and Drake doesn't.

What does that have to do with ejecting a manager?

I read that this is Pinella's first ejection of the year! He must be mellowing out a bit.

[jwwashburn]

Very good point. I also think an umpire follwing a manager to the dugout looks a little weird.

[RPatrino]

Guys, none of us was there so we don't know exactly what happened. Absent the report to the league office, we will never know. All this is pure speculation. I have another take on this, having watched the video several times. What if it went down like this.

1) Drake asks for help
2) Fairchild gives it
3) Lou comes out to Fairchild
4) Fairchild says, " Lou we aren't going there today"
5) Lou starts to walk back to dugout
6) While facing Drake, Lou say's something like "And you are Bovine Excrement too, Drake, you F'ing hippy, how could both you blind idiots miss that?"

Just thinking outloud here......

[RPatrino]

Scenario revised:

6) While turning toward the dugout, Lou say's something like "And you are Bovine Excrement too, Drake, you F'ing hippy, how could both you blind idiots miss that?"

Let's not hair split.

[UES]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

Scenario revised:

6) While turning toward the dugout, Lou say's something like "And you are Bovine Excrement too, Drake, you F'ing hippy, how could both you blind idiots miss that?"

Let's not hair split.

I agree with Mr. Patrino - I think Lou made a personal remark directed at Chad and/or Drake after he turned back towards the dugout and because Drake was in close proximity, he heard it and dumped him immediately. Usually, it doesn't look good when a coach gets ejected as he's walking away - but I'll bet that Drake was thinking "Screw it, Pinella shouldn't have been out here in the first place - I heard him say it so I'll still run him even if he is walking away".

One thing to remember is long distance arguments and ejections are not good. Chad warned him to not come out any further and thus, giving him a chance to stay in the game. As Bob Patrino said, Lou probably had to get one more shot in and like the true gutless rat that he is, he did it as he was walking away. Drake heard it and promptly ejected him. All and all, a fairly routine ejection and since it's Pinella's first EJ, he probably got a "mulligan" from the league. Tomorrow's another day....

Now about the hair, I agree with Mr. Hickman - Drake needs to get rid of the mullet. The lettuce is getting pretty thick