Who will replace Froemming?

[lawump]

Originally Posted by Lawrence.Dorsey

Hallion and Hickok were re-hired but they did not take Froemming's spot nor is it a lock that they will. I thought based on what I had read when they and Bob Davidson were set to be re-hired that they had a pre-determined order as to "when" they would be officially re-hired. When Terry Craft retired last year, I thought one of the two (Hallion or Hickox) would get his spot. Instead it was Lance Barksdale. Then during the offseason, Hallion and Hickok were officially rehired as part of the WBC/TV mic negotiations. They are considered rovers. Now whether or not they simply slide them onto a crew to fill Froemming's spot, I don't know. I would defer to someone with an inner knowledge of MLB workings.

According to my close friend (AAA crew chief and MLB reserve), he told me in August that 3 MLBers would have to retire for one AAA guy to be promoted. That is, MLB was planning to drop back down to 68. Of course, things could have changed since we last talked...but that's what he said at the end of August.

[jpc2119]

Originally Posted by Lawrence.Dorsey

Hallion and Hickok were re-hired but they did not take Froemming's spot nor is it a lock that they will. I thought based on what I had read when they and Bob Davidson were set to be re-hired that they had a pre-determined order as to "when" they would be officially re-hired. When Terry Craft retired last year, I thought one of the two (Hallion or Hickox) would get his spot. Instead it was Lance Barksdale. Then during the offseason, Hallion and Hickok were officially rehired as part of the WBC/TV mic negotiations. They are considered rovers. Now whether or not they simply slide them onto a crew to fill Froemming's spot, I don't know. I would defer to someone with an inner knowledge of MLB workings.

I think the MLB umpire who told me that would be considered someone with knowledge of MLB workings.

[johnSandlin]

jpc2119,

I would think so as well, but some within this forum would probably disagree.

I am not one of them.

[LeeBallanfant]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

George Steinbrenner was upset with Bruce Froemming's handling of the "buggy" game in Cleveland. The Yankee boss is quoted in the New Jersey Register:

"The umpire was full of [expletive]," Steinbrenner said of the retiring Froemming. "He won't umpire our games anymore."

So who fills in for Froemming tonight?

Either Tim Donaghy who has a lot of experience with "bugs" or Mike Winters who is familiar with the {expletive}

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

George Steinbrenner was upset with Bruce Froemming's handling of the "buggy" game in Cleveland. The Yankee boss is quoted in the New Jersey Register:

"The umpire was full of [expletive]," Steinbrenner said of the retiring Froemming. "He won't umpire our games anymore."

So who fills in for Froemming tonight?

What did that idiot Steinbrenner expect of Froemming? The UIC of the game was Laz Diaz and he handled the situation just fine. I suppose King George wants to have all the bugs fired! He sure doesn't dictate who works his games. He can buy a baseball team but not the umpires.

[t-rex]

Steinbrenner comes close to making me appreciate Jerry Jones. Close, but not quite.

[bobbybanaduck]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

What did that idiot Steinbrenner expect of Froemming? The UIC of the game was Laz Diaz and he handled the situation just fine. I suppose King George wants to have all the bugs fired! He sure doesn't dictate who works his games. He can buy a baseball team but not the umpires.

steve, you know better than that. the plate umpire in pro ball is not the UIC unless it is a 2 man system. anything other than 2 man and the crew chief is always the UIC.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck

steve, you know better than that. the plate umpire in pro ball is not the UIC unless it is a 2 man system. anything other than 2 man and the crew chief is always the UIC.

The crew chief is the UIC for every game? What happened to Rule 9.04(a)? It has always been my understanding the Senior Umpire, or Crew Chief was a separate thing from the UIC, who by rule is the plate umpire.

I did not read that Froemming was named Crew Chief, but I guess it makes sense because he is the senior man, but I've always heard it expressed separately from the actual UIC of the individual game.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

The crew chief is the UIC for every game? What happened to Rule 9.04(a)? It has always been my understanding the Senior Umpire, or Crew Chief was a separate thing from the UIC, who by rule is the plate umpire.

Nope, the crew chief is the UIC in mechanics above two man.

[bobbybanaduck]

9.04a is one of many outdated rules in the book. also, seniority does not necessarily equal crew chief. tim tschida was the senior man on the crew for the sox/angels series, but was not the chief. you may not read anywhere who the chief is, cuz the general public doesn't care. if it isn't announced, you know who the chief of the playoff crew is by him working the plate in game 1 of the series.

[kylejt]

Who will replace Froemming?

[johnSandlin]

It will be a sad day when Marsh retires. He does such a good job on the field with balls and strikes, mechanics, and handling situations on the field when they come up.

[mbyron]

[SanDiegoSteve]

Take a big whiff boys! Ahhhhhh, smells like MLB spirit!!!

[jpc2119]

While nothing is by any means set, when I had lunch with a couple MLB guys over the summer when they were in town for a Mets series, there was talk of finding ways to hire new guys, including giving the plate guy the next day off and forming an extra crew. These guys didn't say anything about Drake/Hoye/Guccione, but that might not be something they're kept apprised of anyway.

All I know is I'd be frustrated if I was these guys and hadn't gotten a full-time job yet, but I'm sure they'll stick around as long as they can.