Who will replace Froemming?

[cowbyfan1]

Originally Posted by Lawrence.Dorsey

Hallion and Hickok were re-hired but they did not take Froemming's spot nor is it a lock that they will. I thought based on what I had read when they and Bob Davidson were set to be re-hired that they had a pre-determined order as to "when" they would be officially re-hired. When Terry Craft retired last year, I thought one of the two (Hallion or Hickox) would get his spot. Instead it was Lance Barksdale. Then during the offseason, Hallion and Hickok were officially rehired as part of the WBC/TV mic negotiations. They are considered rovers. Now whether or not they simply slide them onto a crew to fill Froemming's spot, I don't know. I would defer to someone with an inner knowledge of MLB workings.

Where is Chris Griffin fitting in with all this? Still a year or 2 away?

[lawump]

Originally Posted by Lawrence.Dorsey

Hallion and Hickok were re-hired but they did not take Froemming's spot nor is it a lock that they will. I thought based on what I had read when they and Bob Davidson were set to be re-hired that they had a pre-determined order as to "when" they would be officially re-hired. When Terry Craft retired last year, I thought one of the two (Hallion or Hickox) would get his spot. Instead it was Lance Barksdale. Then during the offseason, Hallion and Hickok were officially rehired as part of the WBC/TV mic negotiations. They are considered rovers. Now whether or not they simply slide them onto a crew to fill Froemming's spot, I don't know. I would defer to someone with an inner knowledge of MLB workings.

According to my close friend (AAA crew chief and MLB reserve), he told me in August that 3 MLBers would have to retire for one AAA guy to be promoted. That is, MLB was planning to drop back down to 68. Of course, things could have changed since we last talked...but that's what he said at the end of August.

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by cowbyfan1

Where is Chris Griffin fitting in with all this? Still a year or 2 away?

Chris Griffin is in Quahog. I think you mean Chris Griffith.

Originally Posted by lawump

According to my close friend (AAA crew chief and MLB reserve), he told me in August that 3 MLBers would have to retire for one AAA guy to be promoted. That is, MLB was planning to drop back down to 68. Of course, things could have changed since we last talked...but that's what he said at the end of August.

Does MLB plan on keeping guys like Guccione/Drake/Hoye around until those jobs open up? These guys have worked a lot of games this year and seem to be pretty much full time MLB reserves, almost like Lance Barksdale was before he was hired.

[Publius]

Originally Posted by GarthB

That may have been true a few years ago. It isn't now.

Yeah. I almost, but didn't, mentioned this at the time a certain play was all over this board. On the play precipitating the Mike Winters incident, Bradley singled to center. Froemming was U2 that game; you get a real good look at him hustling into the infield from his initial CF spot.

A quadriplegic would've been just as quick.

[lawump]

Originally Posted by mattmets

Does MLB plan on keeping guys like Guccione/Drake/Hoye around until those jobs open up? These guys have worked a lot of games this year and seem to be pretty much full time MLB reserves, almost like Lance Barksdale was before he was hired.

I don't know...no one did at the time of our conversation.

[johnSandlin]

I would be willing to venture a safe guess that Hallion is going to be around full time for a while now. According worldumpires.com's website, Hallion is on the NLCS umpiring crew this year. So, I would think with that assignment, he is back as a full time umpire for MLB.

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by johnSandlin

I would be willing to venture a safe guess that Hallion is going to be around full time for a while now. According worldumpires.com's website, Hallion is on the NLCS umpiring crew this year. So, I would think with that assignment, he is back as a full time umpire for MLB.

Ed Hickox worked an NLDS.

These guys were re-hired in March.

But thanks. Your sleuthiness is second to none.

[johnSandlin]

Mr Mets,

I was making a comment about Hallion specific. I already knew that Hickox worked in the NLDS this year.

My comment was opinion based about Hallion. Plus, the comment would hold true to Hickox and Davidson (even though he did not work the post season) as well.

[jpc2119]

Originally Posted by Lawrence.Dorsey

Hallion and Hickok were re-hired but they did not take Froemming's spot nor is it a lock that they will. I thought based on what I had read when they and Bob Davidson were set to be re-hired that they had a pre-determined order as to "when" they would be officially re-hired. When Terry Craft retired last year, I thought one of the two (Hallion or Hickox) would get his spot. Instead it was Lance Barksdale. Then during the offseason, Hallion and Hickok were officially rehired as part of the WBC/TV mic negotiations. They are considered rovers. Now whether or not they simply slide them onto a crew to fill Froemming's spot, I don't know. I would defer to someone with an inner knowledge of MLB workings.

I think the MLB umpire who told me that would be considered someone with knowledge of MLB workings.

[johnSandlin]

jpc2119,

I would think so as well, but some within this forum would probably disagree.

I am not one of them.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by lawump

I don't know...no one did at the time of our conversation.

Although working nearly full time at the MLB level for a few years now, (over 1000 games since 2000, "Gucce" didn't seem to be real positive about his future this past summer.

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Although working nearly full time at the MLB level for a few years now, (over 1000 games since 2000, "Gucce" didn't seem to be real positive about his future this past summer.

I'll ask you the same question I asked lawump- do you know if MLB is going to get rid of the Guccione/Hoye/Drake crowd who has been around for a while for a lack of jobs, or will they keep them around for openings post-Hallion and Hickox? You obviously have very good connections with the MiLB guys (no offense to lawump) so maybe you can share something he doesn't know.

[lawump]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Although working nearly full time at the MLB level for a few years now, (over 1000 games since 2000, "Gucce" didn't seem to be real positive about his future this past summer.

I would say that I got the same impression from my friend. There seemed to be a lot of stress on his part.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by mattmets

I'll ask you the same question I asked lawump- do you know if MLB is going to get rid of the Guccione/Hoye/Drake crowd who has been around for a while for a lack of jobs, or will they keep them around for openings post-Hallion and Hickox?

I posted what I know.

I wouldn't assume I know anymore than Lawump.

[Interested Ump]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Despite his size, Bruce is still one of the quickest umpires out there. He used to win bets in match races against people who perceived him to be slow afoot.

If this is true, what a horrible indictment of the MLB umpires motor capabilities.