Chipper Jones - #1 whiner in baseball?

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by David B

Generally, Reed is not one of the better ball and strike umps - haven't see the charts this year where the players rate the umpires but if I remember right he's usually not at the top of the list.

thansk
David

In the olden days of the pathetic Eric Greggs and Joe Wests, their zones were so comical that they deserved bottom rankings. Today, zones are much tighter, more uniform. Gregg wouldn't have lasted a half-season.

Point: How much can the players actually tell about zones? It's more a small "miss" here or there. How many actually track umps, sitting on the bench all but 4 ABs at best a game.

I'll take technology over players (ala Whiner Chippie Jones) any day.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It was a high strike. For Chipper to say the pitch was in the other batter's box is ludicrous. He just assumes all watching are umpire-hating morons.

No, he knows that many watching are Chippie Jones fans who swoon at his every word. As of 2006, I saw Atlanta women who wore shirts by the gross that said.

"I want to be Chipper's Dipper"
"Chipper, Hoot at My Hooters"
"We Luv You, Chipper"

Fathers on diamonds "Ok, Chipper does it this way, he knows, listen to him"

Here's the best ones overheard by Roswell GA mothers in the stands.

"She (Chippies first wife, they NEVER use her real name) didn't satisfy him.
She got what she deserved.
She's getting all that money too.
He was tempted, she could have been there for him
He's alone when he travels, it wasn't right but..
Ok, he cheated on her. That was wrong. But look where she is now!"

Yes, Atlanta luvs Chippie and Chippie luvs to play out his "sorrows" to Atlanta.

Excuse me while I vomit.

[SanDiegoSteve]

By far your best post ever. I could not agree more. Did I say that?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by David B

I didn't watch the entire game but I did see the at bat Chipper talked about. I thought the pitch was up and in.

Must be just me but I still don't like the high strike they try to get called, its just not consistent game to game no matter how hard they try.

Generally, Reed is not one of the better ball and strike umps - haven't see the charts this year where the players rate the umpires but if I remember right he's usually not at the top of the list.

thansk
David

God, David, who CARES what the players think?

[Publius]

For entertainment purposes only

http://www.geocities.com/straightfor...ofthetape.html

[UmpLarryJohnson]

is Chipper a tomcat??


i dont follow braves baseball that much

[David B]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

God, David, who CARES what the players think?

Sounds good in theory, but in reality if I were a MLB umpire I would not want to be rated the worst umpires in the league.

Something to do with "being the best at whatever I do" just don't sit too well with me.

Of course as an umpire we don't care what a player thinks about a game especially when they are losing - same for coaches.

But in the grand scheme, what the players think of you goes a long way.

thanks
David

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by David B

But in the grand scheme, what the players think of you goes a long way.

thanks
David

How do you figure that? Players come and go in many cases more than umpires. You cannot seriously think that if players do not like you that is going to affect if they keep you?

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by David B

Sounds good in theory, but in reality if I were a MLB umpire I would not want to be rated the worst umpires in the league.

Something to do with "being the best at whatever I do" just don't sit too well with me.

Of course as an umpire we don't care what a player thinks about a game especially when they are losing - same for coaches.

But in the grand scheme, what the players think of you goes a long way.

thanks
David

I care what my BOSSES think, not the players.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by David B

But in the grand scheme, what the players think of you goes a long way.

Not really...it's not a popularity contest out there.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by David B

Sounds good in theory, but in reality if I were a MLB umpire I would not want to be rated the worst umpires in the league.

Something to do with "being the best at whatever I do" just don't sit too well with me.

Of course as an umpire we don't care what a player thinks about a game especially when they are losing - same for coaches.

But in the grand scheme, what the players think of you goes a long way.

thanks
David

From the ML site:

Rick Reed 23
CREW CHIEF

Major League Service Time: 25 Years
CAREER: Joined the Major League staff in 1983...has worked the All-Star Game (1986, 98), Division Series (1997, 2000, 01), League Championship Series (1989, 95, 99) and World Series (1991)...worked Dave Righetti’s no-hitter, Joe Cowley’s no-hitter and the game George Brett reached the 3,000-hit plateau...previously umpired in the Appalachian League (1973-74), Midwest League (1975), Eastern League (1976-77) and In ter na tion al League (1978-82).

PERSONAL: Rick Alan Reed...married Cynthia (11/26/76)...has two children: Ryan (2/9/80) and Tyler (12/11/92)...resides in Michigan...received a B.A. in Business Ad ministration from Eastern Michigan University in 1975...works with the Oakland County Baseball Federation...began umpiring Little League games when he was 13 years old for $5 per game...played American Legion baseball...works as a part-time actor in the offseason... enjoys being “Mr. Mom” in the off-season...played the home plate umpire during Kevin Costner’s 1999 movie “For Love of the Game”...would pursue a career in law enforcement if he was not an MLB umpire...named to national board of trustees of his fraternity, Delta Sigma Phi.

Do you really think he gives snot what Larry (RPS) Jones or any other disgruntled player thinks?

[Jim Porter]

If any of you want to get a good idea of strike zone accuracy by MLU's you can watch the Gameday application. Most parks are now running the PITCHf/x tracking system which displays the path, trajectory, release speed, result speed, amount of break, and position in the strike zone for every pitch during a game. It is accurate to within a half-inch and often much less. Most pitches that I track are accurate to within 2/10's of an inch. You can also go back and replay a pitch sequence from any at-bat. Here's a screenshot I just took during the Cubs game:

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Jim Porter

Most pitches that I track are accurate to within 2/10's of an inch.

How do you know? (Not questioning, just asking)

[mbyron]

Hey Jim, post Chipper's at bat from the whining incident.

[Jim Porter]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

How do you know? (Not questioning, just asking)

The software displays the error margin for each pitch triangulated from three camera positions.