Bunt

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by Don Mueller

Exactly which rule are you referring to that is not being followed?

Or are you just being a RAT and questioning judgement calls?

A RAT in umps clothing. I think that puts you well beyond smitty and troll

No, I think he's questioning your willingness to bend the rules as you see fit.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by Don Mueller

Be Aware, it is very difficult to hold the bat motionless while showing bunt. From my perspective there is absolutely no reason for the batter to leave the bat out over the plate if he has no intention at striking the ball. If the batter is making no attempt at pulling the bat back on an apparent 'ball' then he better not twitch, lean or sway any direction but back or else I'm striking it.
In other words, if the batter shows zero attempt to pull back, I'll probably see an attempt.

I'm on with this interp. Placing the bat over the plate..

1) Trying to adjust the D (as in feint and hit) - good baseball.
2) Trying to distract F1/F2 - guess who else gets distracted, PU, you think this is good?

If you have your bat anywhere the pitch when it comes in, Steeeeeerikorino.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by fitump56

I'm on with this interp. Placing the bat over the plate..

1) Trying to adjust the D (as in feint and hit) - good baseball.
2) Trying to distract F1/F2 - guess who else gets distracted, PU, you think this is good?

If you have your bat anywhere the pitch when it comes in, Steeeeeerikorino.

Well, since the bat can't disappear, it must be "anywhere". So, every pitch is a strike. I like it. Of course, we'll have to think of a name to call this game, because "baseball" is already taken.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by fitump56
I'm on with this interp. Placing the bat over the plate..

1) Trying to adjust the D (as in feint and hit) - good baseball.
2) Trying to distract F1/F2 - guess who else gets distracted, PU, you think this is good?

If you have your bat anywhere near the pitch when it comes in, Steeeeeerikorino.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Well, since the bat can't disappear, it must be "anywhere". So, every pitch is a strike. I like it. Of course, we'll have to think of a name to call this game, because "baseball" is already taken.

Go to bed. Surely you have better things to do than nitpik my posts.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by LakeErieUmp

It is correct. But capitalizing the first letter of every word is not correct. It is Difficult To Read.

Indeed. See here: http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...120#post430120

Isn't doing this ridiculously time-consuming as well?

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Go to bed. Surely you have better things to do than nitpik my posts.

OK, I'm still up. I'll just finish where Bob left off.

BTW, how far (close?) is "anywhere near"? If the bat is 6" away, do we strike the pitch? So 2.00 definition of a strike is moot here?

Wow! My games are all gonna be less than hour now with this and Mueller's Rules of Unofficial "Baseball!"

[SanDiegoSteve]

For those who side with Fittysix and Mueller, remember this: A pitch that is not struck at and not in the strike zone is a ball.

That is all you need to remember.

[UMP25]

Silly, Steve, you're forgetting that that is correct in OBR and not UOBR, hich seems to be the code f56 and Mueller are following.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Don Mueller

In other words, if the batter shows zero attempt to pull back, I'll probably see an attempt.

In other words, if the batter follows the rules, you won't.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

In other words, if the batter follows the rules, you won't.

When every batter does, he will.

Your turn.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

For those who side with Fittysix and Mueller, remember this: A pitch that is not struck at and not in the strike zone is a ball.

Excellent. I got one of those things too.

"AN IDIOT WHO LEAVES HIS BAT TO BUNT at our near the plate IS ASSUMED TO BE STRIKING THE BASEBALL ....

[bob jenkins]

[QUOTE=fitump56][quote=SanDiegoSteve]For those who side with Fittysix and Mueller, remember this: A pitch that is not struck at and not in the strike zone is a ball.

Excellent. I got one of those things too.

"AN IDIOT WHO LEAVES HIS BAT TO BUNT at our near the plate IS ASSUMED TO BE STRIKING THE BASEBALL ....

Fed 7.2.1B "In bunting, any movement of the bat toward the ball when the ball is over or near the plate area, is a strike. The mere holding of the bat in the strike zone is not an attempt to hit the ball."

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Fed 7.2.1B "In bunting, any movement of the bat toward the ball when the ball is over or near the plate area, is a strike. The mere holding of the bat in the strike zone is not an attempt to hit the ball."

Bob, I know I have seen it somewhere, but isn't there an OBR version of this statement? I scoured my rule book looking for it and can't find it. Perhaps you can tell me exactly where I've seen this interpretation. Is it in a manual somewhere?

[Don Mueller]

[QUOTE=bob jenkins][QUOTE=fitump56]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

For those who side with Fittysix and Mueller, remember this: A pitch that is not struck at and not in the strike zone is a ball.

Fed 7.2.1B "In bunting, any movement of the bat toward the ball when the ball is over or near the plate area, is a strike. The mere holding of the bat in the strike zone is not an attempt to hit the ball."

Thanks Bob,

For those who have been denegrating my posts please reread posts 8 and 11 without prejudice and tell me how I've bent, misapplied or made up additional rules relative to this topic.
My interps on the above rule were right on, if I do say so myself.
I think some on this forum are so prejudice it blinds them from understanding basic principles of a post.
I wonder if those who prejudge posts also prejudge plays on the field?

[fitump56]

[quote=bob jenkins][quote=fitump56]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

For those who side with Fittysix and Mueller, remember this: A pitch that is not struck at and not in the strike zone is a ball.

Fed 7.2.1B "In bunting, any movement of the bat toward the ball when the ball is over or near the plate area, is a strike. The mere holding of the bat in the strike zone is not an attempt to hit the ball."

So if B vertically raises his bat to, let's say, shoulder height on a an inside drop curve, that breaks slightly off the plate but well below his bat, he gets a "Ball"? I guess so.

What if he holds the bat on the same pitch, outside the strike zone, again not "to" the ball, because it is outside the strike zone, he gets a "Ball"?

How much bat = bat? All, part the tip end?

Ill defined rules of OBR, which ought to be tossed into the garbage and totally rewritten anyway, need common sense interps. Here's mine.

"AN IDIOT WHO LEAVES HIS BAT TO BUNT at our near the plate IS ASSUMED TO BE STRIKING THE BASEBALL ....as far as I am concerned. Since I have nor will never see a B who holds a bat completely still and in accordance with above BS rule, I got strikes to call.