CABA Tournament games at Cleveland Ohio

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by officialtony

And since CVBA is little boys ( under high school age ) baseball, they should have been pleased to have high school umpires.

I think you've got the wrong org. The games I worked were all 18 year-olds.

[charliej47]

I was making some comments about the level of umpiring I saw for this tournament. I expected to see more consistent umpiring. I was commenting on the attire to draw attention to the level of skills and the level I expected to see from the umpires. I sat and watched a number of games and overheard the umpires making comments as they left the field. One such comment was "If it had been a closer game I would have call that". This was in reference to a slide into second base that broke up a double play where the runner slid out of the base path and no call was made. This was in the 7th inning that would have ended the game where the next play ended it anyway.

As a spectator I did not comment about what I saw there. We all comment on this board about what we see on the field when we go and work games.

As I stated, I took time off to go watch my son play. My son is also a registered Ohio baseball/softball class 3 umpire. After games where he plays, we will talk about calls and why they were made and what rules were used in making them.

We are out of the tournament and have left to come home. So I will not see the finals, but I hope the level of umpiring is better.

We all make mistakes and that is not what I am commenting on. I am commenting on the lack of rule enforcement poor mechanics I saw.

[UmpJM]

charlie,

CABA games are played under (modified) OBR rules and do not include a FPSR. As described, there was no violation and the umpire's "no call" was correct.

What the umpires say to one another after a game is their own business.

I still don't understand what you perceived to be improper about their attire (other then the silver-tipped belt, of course).

JM

[jkumpire]

Is that your local association who fines guys? If so, I applaud them. In my part of Ohio limiting OHSAA stuff to HS would never fly, with good reason. But it is bad enough we have to buy branded uniforms in the first place, without havign to wear it all summer.

Do you think there are enough people in your association who would like to wear other colors than Navy in the spring that they would support as an association a request to OHSAA to change the uniform rule?

[officialtony]

There were also CVBA games going on this last weekend on the far west side of Cleveland. THOSE games were little boy ball. Without any more geography specific in the OP, I thought that the OP was about those games. My apologies for the little boy reference to the Euclid, Ohio CVBA group.
I withdraw from the thread.

[BretMan]

JK,

To the best of my knowledge, the fines would be leveled by our local association, and not by the OHSAA. I don't really worry about it too much because I have sprung a few bucks for plain shirts and hats!

I can't speak for our association as a whole, but my suspicion is that the members would be fine with loosening up the strict "navy blue, OHSAA logo" requirements for high school play.

[UmpLarryJohnson]

Originally Posted by charliej47

I am commenting on the lack of rule enforcement poor mechanics I saw.

no your NOT. you HAVENT YET made a single COMMENT on a MECHANIC or A CALL. just that you DIDNT LIKE them. so WHAT? that doesnt make them WRONG.

if YOU ARENT going to make SPACIFICS then you ARE WASTING THE forums TIME.

[charliej47]

I saw coaches arguing balls and strikes and the PU would ignore it. This went on from both coaches from one game for the whole game. I saw umpires who never moved from behind the plate. I saw umpires who stood in the "B" spot, never moved and would make a "bang, bang" play. This is some of the things I am talking about.