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I was quite disappointed. We worked 2 grade school games and 1 9th grade....his mech's were terrible....No switches, reporting fouls from the baseline, over the back calls rather than pushes, etc. etc.....He even told me that he usually lets the 9th graders play to keep them "happy". Admittedly, they were grade school 9th grade teams (the places players go when they dont make their high school teams). But I thought to my self, man, if this is the standard, I'll have no problems moving up! Then again, maybe he was saving his game face for the Varsity.
As a Rook, anyone have any suggestions on how to handle this....this guy is a 12 yr Vet. It was my first time working for this assigner....should I complain or let it go and hope I dont end up working with him again? Larks....VIT (Vet in Trng) 
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Call your game, switch as best you can, and forget it. These guys are out there and if the truth be known, you'll hurt yourself more by saying something than not.
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What you described is "normal" for many rec-league games among experienced refs (at least in this area).
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Some of the best officials I know have two sets of mechanics they use. One for varsity contest and the othe is what I refer to as "Old man" mechanics. It is based on the pricipal of lets move as little as possible to reserve as much energy as we can for the next game. Wait till summer league. You see this a lot more often there.
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I've been in this situation before. I have recently moved up to a varsity schedule. Last year I worked M.S. and 9th grade games with experienced officials and non-experienced officials. When I was working with a vet, I pretty much did things the way he wanted them done. When I was the more experienced one, I did it by the book. I felt like it was my responsibilty to the younger officials to make sure they learned it the right way. I still do some lower level games, but I always make sure that I am trying to help the younger, less experienced official. I don't want them saying the same things about me or having those feelings. I think that as you move up it is important to remember that you become the best recruiter for new officials, and when they get mixed signals from assigners and officials they decide to give up on the whole thing. It is the responsibility of the vets to make sure the younger officials learn and progress and do things the right way.
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You Ohio people.
That is why you guys in Ohio are always screwing things up with having rankings like that!!!!
 You have to understand, I am a die hard Michigan fan.  Peace
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J/K!!
Yep, stare at his pants too!
BTW, the guy's last name wasn't DeNucci, was it?
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Larks...PIT (Puker In training)
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Mon Dec 17, 2001, 06:00pm
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Re: J/K!!
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 That's just Wrong!
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BTW, I'm sure Mark is a fine official. I was just cracking a joke since I know that he resides in Ohio. We don't always see eye to eye and I don't appreciate his attitude sometimes. But then, there are those who feel the same way about me. So there you have it.
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Larks, unfortunately this is a problem with many officials. Officials must understand that they are never too important or too big for the game even if it is a grade school game. Work hard and go all out no matter what the level. If the plays aren't there to work on then work on mechancis or your run or knowing the clocks and when each team is in the penalty. Whatever you do don't just go through the motions and act too cool for the game. This lazy attitude will mess up your game and will show up in so called "bigger games". In my opinion you should not say anything to your supervisor about this as people will just look at you as a rookie stirring up the pot and complaining.
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on an everlasting quest to find the common ground in any dispute.
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