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Old Sat Jul 14, 2007, 11:59pm
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I'll tell you what is REALLY idiotic is 4 man on the 60' field. We used 2 man in the playoff for the preliminary rounds and 3 man for quarter and semi's and 4 man for final games.

I believe it was in 2005 that the NCAA changed their mechanics to allow the inside umpire to go out on trouble balls. That one change alone made 3 man worth it, because the only advantage 3 man has over 2 man is the ability to have an umpire go out on every trouble ball.
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Old Sun Jul 15, 2007, 12:19am
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... because the only advantage 3 man has over 2 man is the ability to have an umpire go out on every trouble ball.
Your appreciation and understanding of three man appears, by this statement, to be limited.
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Old Sun Jul 15, 2007, 12:26am
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I will amend my statement to...'one' of the advantages of 3 man vs. 2 man is the ability to have an umpire go out on trouble balls.
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Old Sun Jul 15, 2007, 01:22am
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Your appreciation and understanding of three man appears, by this statement, to be limited.
So you call 3 Man all the time? 3 Man is an academic study for the rest of us, I bow to your consistent use of 3 Man. Please enlighten.
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Old Sun Jul 15, 2007, 01:38am
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In my golden years, I am doing pretty much all LL 60-foot games.

[Waiting for sniggering]

We do 3-man for all local final games and state games. It works just fine.

In addition to letting a BU go out for trouble catches (there are plenty), you also have coverage on the frequent play where R2 will try to advance after throw to F3 on an infield grounder. U1 can take the rock and U3 is ready for play at 3B, whilst PU can stay home, waiting for the inevitable error.

On the real diamond, 3-man has definite advantages in double-steal situations, iffy bunts where defense may try to put out an exisiting runner, base touches, delayed obsructions, tag-ups, pickles, hmmmm.

I could go on. So far, in Garth's corner.

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Old Sun Jul 15, 2007, 11:37pm
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In my golden years, I am doing pretty much all LL 60-foot games.

[Waiting for sniggering]

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Won't get any here. I have as many of these under my belt as 90' (I think )
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Old Sun Jul 15, 2007, 10:58pm
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So you call 3 Man all the time? 3 Man is an academic study for the rest of us, I bow to your consistent use of 3 Man. Please enlighten.
wow FITUMP ....FED does 3man all the time in PLAYOFF season.

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Old Sun Jul 15, 2007, 11:24pm
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So you call 3 Man all the time? 3 Man is an academic study for the rest of us, I bow to your consistent use of 3 Man. Please enlighten.


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wow FITUMP ....FED does 3man all the time in PLAYOFF season.
Which part of my post above blew right over your head, Larry? What percentage of HS games are playoff games?
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Your appreciation and understanding of three man appears, by this statement, to be limited.
Maybe that has something to do with limited use of it? I dunno, some, no, most of us don't have the time to spend massive amount of daily hours reading the nuances of X man mechanics, of course, and as always, YDayMV and certainly does.
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Absolutely freaking amazing. Eleven (11) freaking posts in a freaking row in one freaking thread.

Are you answering all those voices that the rest of us can't hear?

You are a hoot, Sybil.
I don't get it... are fitump56 and BigUmp56 the same guy?

PS: MTD: I was thinking the same thing before I read your post. Not fair - you beat me to it.
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Old Mon Jul 16, 2007, 01:27am
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Nope. Fitump56 is either the former owner of Officials Unlimited or his stoolie Donovan Hammond. He rears his ugly head here from time to time under a new alias to stir up a little conflict. A true troll in every sense of the word. Even his chosen user name is a weak attempt to mock my own.
If JR's contention is true, 3 of fitump56's posts have been deleted, as I only count 8 consecutive posts: 17 through 24.

Basketball had a guy like that too. I forget his username though.
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Old Mon Jul 16, 2007, 05:17am
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If JR's contention is true, 3 of fitump56's posts have been deleted, as I only count 8 consecutive posts: 17 through 24.

Basketball had a guy like that too. I forget his username though.
FitUmp56 also posts under Steven Tyler, and used to post under PWL. He also apparently has an imaginary friend called Donovan. The names "Wayne" and "Paul" have come up too, I think. All of these different personas are noted for making and then deleting posts. He is also known for answering his own posts by using a different persona

It sure would be simpler if he only used one username to post. Sybil would be kinda apt.

http://www.fright.com/edge/sybil.html

Btw, I don't think that FitUmp56/StevenTyler/PWL/Wayne/Paul has ever been seen in the same room as Old School either.

Also btw, he is also a key member of the legendary on-line on-going feud that rivals the Hatfields and McCoys. He and his various personalities are on one side and BigUmp56/SanDiegoSteve are on the other side. It's kinda like Days Of Our Lives and it's lasted just about as long too, spanning several message boards.

Tune in daily. You never know what you might miss. You have to get there before the moderators though, or you'll miss about 50% of the posts.

It's true, it's true......

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Old Mon Jul 16, 2007, 08:50am
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Btw, I don't think that FitUmp56/StevenTyler/PWL/Wayne/Paul has ever been seen in the same room as Old School either.
I'm glad that baseball and basketball have opposite seasons. It makes visiting the OF year round worthy.

I stopped watching the stories on TV, maybe this is an acceptable substitute.
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Old Mon Jul 16, 2007, 02:46pm
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FitUmp56 also posts under Steven Tyler, and used to post under PWL. He also apparently has an imaginary friend called Donovan. The names "Wayne" and "Paul" have come up too, I think. All of these different personas are noted for making and then deleting posts. He is also known for answering his own posts by using a different persona

It sure would be simpler if he only used one username to post. Sybil would be kinda apt.

http://www.fright.com/edge/sybil.html

Btw, I don't think that FitUmp56/StevenTyler/PWL/Wayne/Paul has ever been seen in the same room as Old School either.

Also btw, he is also a key member of the legendary on-line on-going feud that rivals the Hatfields and McCoys. He and his various personalities are on one side and BigUmp56/SanDiegoSteve are on the other side. It's kinda like Days Of Our Lives and it's lasted just about as long too, spanning several message boards.

Tune in daily. You never know what you might miss. You have to get there before the moderators though, or you'll miss about 50% of the posts.

It's true, it's true......
You don't have the players right. I can PM you (actually tried, but you don't accept PMs) with the official Days of Our Lives at OF Scorecard. Can't tell the players without a scorecard. The truth shall set you free!

Turn your PM acceptance back on, and I will forward the 411.
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Old Mon Jul 16, 2007, 08:58am
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Your appreciation and understanding of three man appears, by this statement, to be limited.
Yup. Matter of fact I could argue (quite convincingly) that 3 is the sweet spot in terms of number of umpires.
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