Rabbit Ears and Violent Dissaproval

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by lawump

I always knew that Paul O'Neil was a RAT, but he is now a King Rat. I just watched this Torii Hunter incident again at MLB.com. MLB.com's video is the New York Yankee's TV network's (YES) feed, of which Paul O'Neil is the analyst.

Here's what went on.

Torii gets tossed from the dugout. O'Neil goes on and on about how umpires shouldn't go after a player in the dugout when that player is clearly just "frustrated" ("I mean Torii's having a tough series...") and how its wrong for an umpire to go after a player in the dugout and "cause a player to come out onto the field."

To his credit, the play-by-play announcer said (to paraphrase), "Paul, to take (Ron) Kulpa's side, maybe Torii was yelling profanities at Kulpa from the dugout. I mean he wasn't even the one at-bat called out on strikes."

Paul's response? "Whatever."

What a freakin' maroon. So in Paul's world a player can do anything he likes, including cussing out an umpire..."as long as he's in the dugout."

I've read the phrase on here many, many times...it's not my quote, but I think it's appropriate here...

"Once a rat, always a rat"

There are several very good instances for dumping somebody...and more often than not, umpires are made out to be the bad guy for not tolerating obnoxious behavior/language from a player/manager. Not many umpires out there go hunting for ejections...I figure if an umpire in my association dumps somebody, there's probably been a pretty good reason for it.

[DG]

Barry was tossed a couple of nights ago after striking out looking in the 8th on a pitch he thought was a ball. Two pitches later to the next batter the umpire called a strike on a similar pitch and then turned and tossed Barry for commenting from the dugout. Then he tossed the HC who came out to argue.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by lawump

I always knew that Paul O'Neil was a RAT, but he is now a King Rat. I just watched this Torii Hunter incident again at MLB.com. MLB.com's video is the New York Yankee's TV network's (YES) feed, of which Paul O'Neil is the analyst.

Here's what went on.

Torii gets tossed from the dugout. O'Neil goes on and on about how umpires shouldn't go after a player in the dugout when that player is clearly just "frustrated" ("I mean Torii's having a tough series...") and how its wrong for an umpire to go after a player in the dugout and "cause a player to come out onto the field."

To his credit, the play-by-play announcer said (to paraphrase), "Paul, to take (Ron) Kulpa's side, maybe Torii was yelling profanities at Kulpa from the dugout. I mean he wasn't even the one at-bat called out on strikes."

Paul's response? "Whatever."

What a freakin' maroon. So in Paul's world a player can do anything he likes, including cussing out an umpire..."as long as he's in the dugout."

I don't go looking for **** from a dugout, but I don't turn my ears off, either. If you don't want me in your kitchen, stop throwing food in my direction.

[RPatrino]

I must be 'old school', but I try to avoid dugouts and bench areas like the plague. Once the pre-game equipment inspection is done, I won't enter a dugout. I never sit on the bench during a game ( I once had to go looking for a partner who was sitting on the bench between innings eating a candy bar). I try to respect the bench/dugout area as a player's area, not mine.

I generally ignore most of the crap that comes from the dugout as well. I have heard equipment being thrown, I saw a gatorade bucket get kicked to pieces (that was funny), and I have heard all sorts of bad language. The issue becomes when that behavior is directed personally to me. If I am taking the time to walk to the bench area to address behavior, someones leaving the game and it's not me.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

I must be 'old school', but I try to avoid dugouts and bench areas like the plague. Once the pre-game equipment inspection is done, I won't enter a dugout. I never sit on the bench during a game ( I once had to go looking for a partner who was sitting on the bench between innings eating a candy bar). I try to respect the bench/dugout area as a player's area, not mine.

I generally ignore most of the crap that comes from the dugout as well. I have heard equipment being thrown, I saw a gatorade bucket get kicked to pieces (that was funny), and I have heard all sorts of bad language. The issue becomes when that behavior is directed personally to me. If I am taking the time to walk to the bench area to address behavior, someones leaving the game and it's not me.

What you said isn't any different from what I said, actually.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

I don't go looking for **** from a dugout, but I don't turn my ears off, either. If you don't want me in your kitchen, stop throwing food in my direction.

Doncha just hate it when a weak arm can't get the food out the kitchen door?