Hawk Harrelson - Worst announcer EVER!

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by umpduck11

I've always hated that term......

Sorry, both of my favorite AL teams are Sox.

[Lawrence.Dorsey]

Let me say this first, I am not defending Ken Harrelson's rant because it was a little too much for me. But I honestly don't think he saw Eddie Rap signal obstruction when it happened. I did when they showed the camera shot from over the third base dugout but I guarantee few if any saw the signal, including the Hawk. Furthermore, since Hawk never saw the original signal, he had absolutely no idea why runners were placed after the outs had been made.

Some of the confusion was dictated by the Type B obstruction and some as others have pointed out was dictated by the umpires not killing the play when the obstructed runner was caught in a rundown. All in all it was a mess.


Lawrence

[gsf23]

Originally Posted by Lawrence.Dorsey

Let me say this first, I am not defending Ken Harrelson's rant because it was a little too much for me. But I honestly don't think he saw Eddie Rap signal obstruction when it happened. I did when they showed the camera shot from over the third base dugout but I guarantee few if any saw the signal, including the Hawk. Furthermore, since Hawk never saw the original signal, he had absolutely no idea why runners were placed after the outs had been made.

Some of the confusion was dictated by the Type B obstruction and some as others have pointed out was dictated by the umpires not killing the play when the obstructed runner was caught in a rundown. All in all it was a mess.


Lawrence

Well, I was watching on WGN with Kaper and Brenly. Ast first they didn't understand what was going on but as the umpires confered and they showed the replay, Brenly picked up the obstuction call right away. Actually, Rap and the third base umpire both signaled for the obstruction. At first, Brenly thought that they would still call Pie out since he wasn't obstructed, but after the umpires made the ruiling, they pulled out the rulebook and found the rule and explained it very well on the broadcast.

The part of the clip that is missed is that during the break between innings, Hawk came over to the Cubs broadcast booth and Brenly had to explain to him what happened.

[tjones1]

In another game of that series, there was a strikeout of the batter and R1 was running. The batter's swing carried him over the plate. When I saw it live I thought man that's got to be close to INT. Sure enough, they banged him for INT - double play.

Hawk said.. "that's an iffy, iffy call." Silly monkeys!

Edit: Didn't realize this was an old, old thread. My fault.

Originally Posted by BaBa Booey

Not that this is anything new, but while watching this video I found myself wanting to punch hawk harrelson through the computer screen...

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | CWS@KC: Ozzie is ejected arguing balls and strikes - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

I saw a clip of Ozzie getting dumped early in a game the other night. I thought it said it was in the 1st inning...thanks for the video.

[UMP25]

I'm a lifelong Sox fan and I don't like Hawk either.

A couple days after the conclusion of the Cubs-Sox series at the end of June, Hawk pleaded with Major League Baseball to investigate its umpires. Why? Because Harrelson said that the umpires are conspiring against the White Sox and Ozzie Guillen following the Mark Buehrle-Joe West-Ozzie Guillen balk ejection incident last month.

Recall that West called a balk on Buehrle, and after the second one, West ejected Mark and Ozzie. The incident led to MLB fining Buehrle, Guillen, and West. Well, Ken Harrelson is convinced that because of this, MLB Umpires have gotten together to conspire against Ozzie and the Sox.

OK, Hawk. Whatever you say.

[rbmartin]

In retrospect, he obviously would have been better off not commenting on the play, however, I say give the guy a break. When is the last time you, as an umpire, witnissed a play unfold in this manner?

Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent,...Proverbs 17:28