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gsf23 Mon Jun 25, 2007 08:56pm

Hawk Harrelson - Worst announcer EVER!
 
This is classic. Hawk Harrelson going on a rant about how the umpires blew the call in the Cubs-White Sox game on Sunday.

For those that didn't see the play :

With Felix Pie at second base and Angel Pagan at first for the Cubs, Mark DeRosa singled off the wall in right field. Rob Mackowiak threw the ball in as the runners were moving. Pagan ran into Sox shortstop Juan Uribe near second base, and umpire Ed Rapuano signaled obstuction by Uribe.

Pagan kept trying to go to third..saw that Pie was being held at third and in trying to get back to second was tagged out. Pie tried to score as they played on Pagan but got caught in a rundown of his own and was tagged out going into home. After the play, the umpires placed all the runners back on the bases: Pie at third, Pagan at second, and DeRosa at first, and cancelled the outs. Ruling that once a play is made on an obstructed runner the ball is dead.

Here is Hawks rant..my favorite part is when he thinks they are calling a triple play even though only two runners were tagged.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7pQnPczK5SY

CJN Mon Jun 25, 2007 09:19pm

hilarious, i cringe when i see i have to listen to a full game with hawk and dj.

i love that they think the protest is going to be upheld and that they ay this is a great example of why there needs to be instant replay.

SanDiegoSteve Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:41pm

Careful laying the "worst ever" label on anything, because he certainly is not the "worst ever," and I think you know that.


I can name a few announcers that are much worse than old Hawk the Homer.

bluezebra Tue Jun 26, 2007 01:18am

When an opposing batter strikes out, Harrelson sounds like a braying jackass; "Heee goooone".

As for his lack of rules knowledge, he's no worse than the others. In fact, he's behind Tim McCarver and Joe Morgan.

Bob

mbyron Tue Jun 26, 2007 07:32am

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Originally Posted by bluezebra
In fact, he's behind Tim McCarver and Joe Morgan.

It's been a while since I lived in White Sox land and had to endure the Hawk and whoever had the chair next to him. McCarver and Morgan have a national stage on which to parade their ignorance, and the fact that so many more people hear their mistakes makes it difficult to judge whose rules knowledge is worse.

bob jenkins Tue Jun 26, 2007 08:23am

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Originally Posted by CJN
hilarious, i cringe when i see i have to listen to a full game with hawk and dj.

i love that they think the protest is going to be upheld and that they ay this is a great example of why there needs to be instant replay.

Especially when there wasn't even a protest (I don't think). I think Cora(?) (the assistant coach who took over for Guillen) tried to protest but couldn't explain what he was protesting, so the protest was never accepted.

JR12 Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:44am

Jim Palmer (calling an Orioles games last week) explained why Freddy Bynum was safe on a bang-banger at 1B. "The TIE goes to the runner".
Here is a HOF pitcher who constantly gets rules WRONG!

umpduck11 Tue Jun 26, 2007 01:51pm

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Originally Posted by bluezebra

As for his lack of rules knowledge, he's no worse than the others. In fact, he's behind Tim McCarver and Joe Morgan.

Bob

Or would that be ahead of McCarver and Morgan ? :D

bbump82 Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:14pm

Missing one key point
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JR12
Jim Palmer (calling an Orioles games last week) explained why Freddy Bynum was safe on a bang-banger at 1B. "The TIE goes to the runner".
Here is a HOF pitcher who constantly gets rules WRONG!

You're missing the small detail that links most of these announcers together. They're players, when have the players ever known the rules and have the knowledge to apply them right? If they did, they would be umpires!! :D

bluezebra Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:28pm

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Originally Posted by umpduck11
Or would that be ahead of McCarver and Morgan ? :D

No. In lack of rules knowledge, he's behind in the sense of order.

Worst..McCarver; Second..Morgan; Third..Harrelson. But it's close.

Bob

SanDiegoSteve Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:34pm

Wow, you can put that little duck-snort on the board.....YES!

I think Harrelson is much more knowledgeable than are Palmer and Reynolds. I would put them 3 and 4 respectively. I think we can come up with even more.

I've listened the Hawkeroo for many years, and he's usually not as bad as this latest thing. He's just a homer who thinks his team got hosed. I'm sure if it were explained to him, that he would acknowledge that the right call was eventually made.

Jim Porter Wed Jun 27, 2007 01:35pm

I really can't blame any White Sox personnel for being upset about this play. The umpires royally screwed up. While they corrected their errors in the end and eventually got the right ruling and placement of runners, they let all that action play out when play should've been stopped. They allowed the White Sox to acquire two outs that would later be nullified. They made a difficult situation a helluva lot worse. It was very poor umpiring. Hawk is paid by the White Sox to be their announcer. He's their representative. While he might not have understood the final outcome (and, let's face it, most umpires on these forums didn't understand the outcome until it was explained by a few of us in detail) he was quite correct in calling it a bunch of, "BS."

umpduck11 Wed Jun 27, 2007 03:43pm

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Wow, you can put that little duck-snort on the board.....

I've always hated that term...... ;)

SanDiegoSteve Wed Jun 27, 2007 03:46pm

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Originally Posted by umpduck11
I've always hated that term...... ;)

Sorry, both of my favorite AL teams are Sox.:eek:

Lawrence.Dorsey Wed Jun 27, 2007 04:01pm

Let me say this first, I am not defending Ken Harrelson's rant because it was a little too much for me. But I honestly don't think he saw Eddie Rap signal obstruction when it happened. I did when they showed the camera shot from over the third base dugout but I guarantee few if any saw the signal, including the Hawk. Furthermore, since Hawk never saw the original signal, he had absolutely no idea why runners were placed after the outs had been made.

Some of the confusion was dictated by the Type B obstruction and some as others have pointed out was dictated by the umpires not killing the play when the obstructed runner was caught in a rundown. All in all it was a mess.


Lawrence


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