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Old Mon Jun 25, 2007, 11:41pm
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Careful laying the "worst ever" label on anything, because he certainly is not the "worst ever," and I think you know that.


I can name a few announcers that are much worse than old Hawk the Homer.
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Old Tue Jun 26, 2007, 01:18am
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When an opposing batter strikes out, Harrelson sounds like a braying jackass; "Heee goooone".

As for his lack of rules knowledge, he's no worse than the others. In fact, he's behind Tim McCarver and Joe Morgan.

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Old Tue Jun 26, 2007, 07:32am
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In fact, he's behind Tim McCarver and Joe Morgan.
It's been a while since I lived in White Sox land and had to endure the Hawk and whoever had the chair next to him. McCarver and Morgan have a national stage on which to parade their ignorance, and the fact that so many more people hear their mistakes makes it difficult to judge whose rules knowledge is worse.
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It's been a while since I lived in White Sox land and had to endure the Hawk and whoever had the chair next to him. McCarver and Morgan have a national stage on which to parade their ignorance, and the fact that so many more people hear their mistakes makes it difficult to judge whose rules knowledge is worse.
Played with McCarver, bottom line, he's a twat.
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Old Thu Jun 28, 2007, 12:38am
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Played with McCarver, bottom line, he's a twat.
Nothing is more telling about the character of a person than his willingness to offer idiotic comments about nothing.
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Old Thu Jun 28, 2007, 12:50am
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Originally Posted by fitump56
Played with McCarver, bottom line, he's a twat.
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Nothing is more telling about the character of a person than his willingness to offer idiotic comments about nothing.
I keep looking at your remark and I don't get your point. Did you not read the thread? McCarver's name was mentioned several times. I commented as to Tim's personality. Do you know him personally? If so, then maybe you have a different opinion. Many do, I don't.
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Old Thu Jun 28, 2007, 12:55am
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Nothing is more telling about the character of a person than his willingness to offer idiotic comments about nothing.
McCarver was part of this discussion and since he played with the man I think the comments are relevant.
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Old Thu Jun 28, 2007, 01:25am
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McCarver was part of this discussion and since he played with the man I think the comments are relevant.
If only I had on field experience with him but moving along...

McCarver was a prodigy, caught Legion ball in the 7th grade, was part of a HS and Summer team, several players who went on to the Cards, the Gagliano Bros. Mike Roose, Mike Shannon, others. I'll cut him slack, he was a Stud's Stud in all sports.
Tim was what, 20?, and catching in th WS? His head was helium filled from birth, add all that early success, as I said I will cut him slack.

But he's still a twat.
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As for his lack of rules knowledge, he's no worse than the others. In fact, he's behind Tim McCarver and Joe Morgan.

Bob
Or would that be ahead of McCarver and Morgan ?
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Old Wed Jun 27, 2007, 12:28pm
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Or would that be ahead of McCarver and Morgan ?
No. In lack of rules knowledge, he's behind in the sense of order.

Worst..McCarver; Second..Morgan; Third..Harrelson. But it's close.

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Old Wed Jun 27, 2007, 12:34pm
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Wow, you can put that little duck-snort on the board.....YES!

I think Harrelson is much more knowledgeable than are Palmer and Reynolds. I would put them 3 and 4 respectively. I think we can come up with even more.

I've listened the Hawkeroo for many years, and he's usually not as bad as this latest thing. He's just a homer who thinks his team got hosed. I'm sure if it were explained to him, that he would acknowledge that the right call was eventually made.
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I really can't blame any White Sox personnel for being upset about this play. The umpires royally screwed up. While they corrected their errors in the end and eventually got the right ruling and placement of runners, they let all that action play out when play should've been stopped. They allowed the White Sox to acquire two outs that would later be nullified. They made a difficult situation a helluva lot worse. It was very poor umpiring. Hawk is paid by the White Sox to be their announcer. He's their representative. While he might not have understood the final outcome (and, let's face it, most umpires on these forums didn't understand the outcome until it was explained by a few of us in detail) he was quite correct in calling it a bunch of, "BS."
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Old Wed Jun 27, 2007, 10:25pm
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I really can't blame any White Sox personnel for being upset about this play. The umpires royally screwed up. While they corrected their errors in the end and eventually got the right ruling and placement of runners, they let all that action play out when play should've been stopped. They allowed the White Sox to acquire two outs that would later be nullified. They made a difficult situation a helluva lot worse. It was very poor umpiring. Hawk is paid by the White Sox to be their announcer. He's their representative. While he might not have understood the final outcome (and, let's face it, most umpires on these forums didn't understand the outcome until it was explained by a few of us in detail) he was quite correct in calling it a bunch of, "BS."
The umpires actually did a pretty good job. The play cannot be over until the obstructed runner is denied the base he would have achieved had there been no obstruction. That the play continued after that is not to say the umpires were not trying to stop it.

And the media did a nice job of explaining it, Hawk Harrelson excepted:

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Wow, you can put that little duck-snort on the board.....
I've always hated that term......
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I've always hated that term......
Sorry, both of my favorite AL teams are Sox.
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