Coaches who know umpiring

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by BigGuy

Last time I looked in the rule book, the "tie" does go to the runner. Doesn't say it but specifically but it does say for an out the runner/base must be tagged before they reach the base. "Before" is not the same as "at the same time". Of course some will say that's not possible, there's never a real "tie". Within the limits of human perception there is. Best description is in FED rules
under batter is out - D3K stuation. Don't have my rule book with me, but look it up.

I'm in the percentile that believes there are no ties. When in doubt, go with the out.

[lawump]

"Coaches who know umpiring"

...I'm still waiting to meet one. (And, no, I have not met CoachJM, yet).

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by lawump

"Coaches who know umpiring"

I know a couple.

One is a pretty good umpire, he does some college, and AA minor work. Very low key, and will not take anyone to task out loud. He'll just stand beside you and tell you the rule that you just stuck a fork in.

The other one can't wait to pounce on the lesser skilled umpire. Miss a rotation, didn't see a missed base, miss the OBS at first, two guys at one base, you're going to hear about it. My son is brutal. Going from being an umpire instructor to a coach is an easy transition, but this time the students can eject you.

"Time!"

"Hey, that may be the best call you've made all day"

[Blue37]

Originally Posted by kylejt

The other one can't wait to pounce on the lesser skilled umpire. Miss a rotation, didn't see a missed base, miss the OBS at first, two guys at one base, you're going to hear about it.

I was not at the game, but we had a high school coach ejected for this. His team was on defense, there was a close play at the plate, and the runner was called out. He came out to berate the umpire for being out of position for the call and ended up getting ejected. $250.00 fine and a two game suspension.

I have not had an opportunity to talk with the umpire involved, and I suspect the "discussion" went into areas best left alone, but if he had not come out to "discuss" the alleged poor positioning, he might have still been around at the end of the game.

Pretty hefty penalty for making a point.

[ozzy6900]

Tie goes to the umpire!!!!!!!!!

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Blue37

I was not at the game, but we had a high school coach ejected for this. His team was on defense, there was a close play at the plate, and the runner was called out. He came out to berate the umpire for being out of position for the call and ended up getting ejected. $250.00 fine and a two game suspension.

I have not had an opportunity to talk with the umpire involved, and I suspect the "discussion" went into areas best left alone, but if he had not come out to "discuss" the alleged poor positioning, he might have still been around at the end of the game.

Pretty hefty penalty for making a point.

Based on your description, you have no idea why the coach was ejected. So your assessment that the penalty was for "making a point" has no basis in fact, as far as you know.

I hope you don't throw your partners under the bus so readily.

[aceholleran]

1. On an infield fly, the ball is dead.
2. A caught pop-up to the catcher in foul territory must go over the batter's head to be considered an out.
3. HBP + batter swings and misses. "HE GETS FIRST!"
4. In LL, the defense can make a standard appeal play to put out a runner who left early on the pitch.
5. "What verbal obstruction? My player just yelled 'FOUL' to the runner."
6. Darkness halts a regulation-length game where a winner can be determined. Losing coach: "Don't worry, gang, we're coming back tomorrow to finish this."
7. When base coacher fails to avoid F3 fielding a foul pop-up, it is not INT. "He was trying to get out the way."
8. "It's the base he's headed to, plus one."
9. Batter-runners must turn to the right after crossing first.
10. "HE'S ALWAYS GOTTA SLIDE!"
11. "You mean I gotta say which runner I'm appealing?"
12. "The ball hit the runner--he's automatically out."
13. "If he trows [this is not a typo] his bat, he's out."

Lucky number, so I'll stop there. For the right amount, I could go well into triple figures.

Ace

[Blue37]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Based on your description, you have no idea why the coach was ejected. So your assessment that the penalty was for "making a point" has no basis in fact, as far as you know.

I hope you don't throw your partners under the bus so readily.

I stated three facts.
1. The call went in favor of the coach.
2. He came out to berate the umpire for his positioning, even though the call went in his favor.
3. He was ejected.

Where did I throw anyone "under the bus"? I said nothing about the ejection not being warranted. I was pointing out the stupidity of a coach coming out to argue mechanics when the call went in his favor.

Edited: In re-reading my originaly post, I realized my statement about the hefty penalty could be mis-understood to mean that I was opposed to the ejection. I have no idea why he was ejected, and knowing the umpire involved, the coach was given every opportunity to stay in the game. I apologize if I gave the impression I disagreed with the ejection.