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2. Peavy and other pitchers issue veiled threats 3. Cubs best hitter gets a high hard one directed to the head 4. Lee takes exception 5. Young smarts off and tells Lee to get his ### to first 6. Brawl ensues 7. Peavy gets right in the middle of the action You could blame it on Soriano, but since it's in his home park it's harder to make a reasonable argument that he was showing up the visiting team. You could blame it on Peavy and his crew for 1. being so sensitive and 2. publicly announcing a need for retaliation. You could blame it on Young, intentional or not, for putting one at Lee's head and seemingly following through with what the Leader of the pitching staff publicly announced. Or you could blame it on Young for being a smart a##. You could blame the HP umpire for daydreaming Lee was the only one with out a dog in the fight until Young threw at him. Blame it on Lee if you like, but I think there's plenty of of culpability to go around. |
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I didn't defend my actions at all, much less to the "nth degree." It makes me wonder if you can read. The thread went in a completely different direction than my original question. Some questioned my grasp of reality because I believe the HBP's were not intentional. I wasn't enquiring if anyone else thought they were intentional. The point of my enquiry was whether I should have responded sooner IF I thought they weren't intentional. The thread went farther off target with a discussion of the legal ramifications of using a bat to threaten or harm someone else before it went even farther off target with the discussion of the Cubs/Padres fight. Quote:
I accepted the critique 25 posts ago, but thanks for playing anyway.
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Give up a homer to the opposition-deal with the dancing Throwing at someones head potentially endangers their livelihood. Lee was the only on in this whole scenario with a right to be p@@@@@ off. |
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Well, I see there is no reasoning with you about this, so I am done. You are going to spin this your way because you must be a Cubs fan. I don't believe that Young was trying to hit Lee. That is my position. You can tell a lot by a pitchers initial reaction, and Young clearly was not throwing at Lee. If you look at Lilly's initial reaction after hitting Renteria, you can tell there was no regret whatsoever.
Young, on the other hand, was upset that he had hit a batter. It was in the fourth inning, a 0-0 score, and he had not allowed a base runner. Do you realize what a perfecto or a no-no would mean to the city of San Diego? They have not had one in their 38 year history. Young wants nothing more than to be the first Padre with a no-hitter or perfect game. He wasn't going to jeopardize this for a stupid retaliation, I don't care what veiled threat Peavy allegedly made. Peavy is a hot-head like Zambrano. Chris Young is actually a very level headed young man with a boat load of class.
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"Our starter gets run" (emphasis added). (You did not write "San Diego's starter gets run" or "The Padres' starter gets run". You used "our..." While I'm not trying to get in the middle of this discussion back-and-forth, can it be that TWO posters are seeing this incident through lenses tinted with their team's colors, rather than with their umpire's lenses? |
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Better "blue and sand" than those horrible camo's they where once a year. (And, yes, I know why they wear them, my brother did his military training in your neck of the woods.) |
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Everyone agrees that the one game suspension was a light "punishement" for the individual making the threats to harm somneone else. The other team also agreed and thought it was fair and justifiable to continue to hit this guy another 3 times the next game. The person involved decided he merited such punishement/humiliation that he also failed to move out of the way 3 times. I think he has proven that he is no longer a threat to anyone and nothing further should take place. Notice that I did not discuss your original point of inquiry. It is difficult to answer because I cannot answer the question for you. You must use or reject whatever "good advice" you choose. Another person, Mr. Jenkins, did answer your question. His posts are highly regarded in these parts and it is often hard to ignore his advice. The rest of us, myself included, enjoy the twists and turns attached in each thread. I feel they give "life" to a very boring 1 type of scenario/1 correct answer type of dialogue. It keeps the site from going stale. JMOHO. Last edited by SAump; Mon Jun 18, 2007 at 03:31pm. |
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