What Fakes Are Legal in FED?

[cshs81]

Which of the following are legal in FED:

1. R1 running to 2nd - F6 holds his hands up signaling "foul ball" and to "hold up". R1 stops , retreats, is tagged out.

2. R1 stealing, BR hits fly ball to outfield, F6 acts as if he is fielding the groundball causing R1 to slide into 2nd.

3. R1 R3. R1 stealing 2nd base. F6 cuts off throw from F2. F4 , covering 2nd, acts as if the throw was not cut off . R1 slides into 2nd.

4. "Miami fake pickoff" play.

5. R1 stealing. BR hits shot to RF. F6 acts as if he's camping under the popup. R1 retreats to F3. No one said "pop up" "get back", etc.

[UmpJM]

cshs81,

1. Not sure - I could see treating this one as Obstruction.

2. Legal.

3. Legal.

4. Legal

5. Legal.

JM

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by cshs81

3. R1 R3. R1 stealing 2nd base. F6 cuts off throw from F2. F4 , covering 2nd, acts as if the throw was not cut off . R1 slides into 2nd.

This would depend on how F4 acts as if the throw was not cut off.

[bluezebra]

What is the "Miami fake pickoff" play?

Bob

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

What is the "Miami fake pickoff" play?

Bob

Pitcher steps off the rubber and fakes a throw to first complete with good follow through. First baseman, yells "damn" or something to that effect and acts as if the ball went over his head. He turns to run it down and idiot R1, with the blessing of his moron base coach, takes off for second. F1 then throws to second for the put-out.

[MichaelVA2000]

cshs81
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What Fakes Are Legal in FED?



Coaches and Managers, and I would like this changed. I'm tired of dealing with these fakes. They come onto the field acting like they know what they are doing when the really don't have clue one.

[cshs81]

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000

cshs81
Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 71

What Fakes Are Legal in FED?



Coaches and Managers, and I would like this changed. I'm tired of dealing with these fakes. They come onto the field acting like they know what they are doing when the really don't have clue one.

I don't follow. What are they acting like they know? Legal vs illegal?

[etn_ump]

Originally Posted by cshs81

I don't follow. What are they acting like they know? Legal vs illegal?

Whooooosh!

That was the sound of something going right over somebody's head!

[cshs81]

Originally Posted by etn_ump

Whooooosh!

That was the sound of something going right over somebody's head!

It went right over it. I'm guessing it was a "shot" that I didn't catch.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by GarthB

This would depend on how F4 acts as if the throw was not cut off.

And by this he means if F4 lays down a fake tag on R1, then he has obstruction in FED baseball.

[cshs81]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

And by this he means if F4 lays down a fake tag on R1, then he has obstruction in FED baseball.

I assume the rules are in place for safety. If so, how is any act I described legal if it results in a runner sliding? I would think example #2 would be illegal since it resulted in a player sliding when there was no play on him.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by cshs81

I assume the rules are in place for safety. If so, how is any act I described legal if it results in a runner sliding? I would think example #2 would be illegal since it resulted in a player sliding when there was no play on him.

Any act of a fake tag results in a warning. Next offense results in an automatic ejection.

[cshs81]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Any act of a fake tag results in a warning. Next offense results in an automatic ejection.

Got it. Am I correct that its for safety purposes? The thought being that having a player slide when he doesn't need to increases his chance of being injured?

[LMan]

Originally Posted by cshs81

I assume the rules are in place for safety. If so, how is any act I described legal if it results in a runner sliding? I would think example #2 would be illegal since it resulted in a player sliding when there was no play on him.

How do you know the slide was a direct result of the deke? Players slide all the time when there's no play on them.

not that this has any bearing on its legality


Non-verbal, non-fake-tag decoys are legal in FED, in the Real World (tm).

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by cshs81

I assume the rules are in place for safety. If so, how is any act I described legal if it results in a runner sliding? I would think example #2 would be illegal since it resulted in a player sliding when there was no play on him.

If you meant that F4 faked a tag, you are right, it is illegal. If you meant that F4 pretended to catch the ball only, then you would be wrong, because that is not illegal.