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Old Fri Jun 08, 2007, 10:14am
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And I bet you are standing in the wrong place...most likely too close to the catcher. The closer you are to the catcher, as with a traditional slot stance, the more you get hit (like the catcher).
I'm pretty far back, so I don't think that's the issue.

I wear my shinguards under my pants, thank you. So hooking my mitts underneath is not an option. With a righty up, your left hand is exposed. That's just part of the risk. I was just unlucky enough to take two identical shots on both sides of the dish within a matter of minutes. Really weird and painful.
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Old Fri Jun 08, 2007, 10:16am
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I wear my shinguards under my pants, thank you. So hooking my mitts underneath is not an option.
You should still be able to tuck them behind your guards... just put some pant in there too...
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Old Fri Jun 08, 2007, 10:18am
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You should still be able to tuck them behind your guards... just put some pant in there too...

That is, if you're wearing plate pants.
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Old Fri Jun 08, 2007, 10:20am
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I wear combos behind the plate, and its never been an issue for me. The top of the guard rides up some when I crouch anyway.
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Old Fri Jun 08, 2007, 10:31am
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I'm pretty far back, so I don't think that's the issue.

I wear my shinguards under my pants, thank you. So hooking my mitts underneath is not an option. With righty up, your left hand is exposed. That's just part of the risk. I was just unlucky enough to take two identical shots on both sides of the dish within a matter of minutes. Really weird and painful.
Maybe I've been doing it wrong then ... can you show me a picture of someone in the proper stance with his hand exposed? My hands (as mentioned above) are behind my knees - with just a LITTLE exposure on my wrists.
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Old Fri Jun 08, 2007, 12:20pm
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I have used the GD for about 5 years now and have never been hit in the hand. I have been hit on the left arm, though, on pitches that are WAAAY inside to a righty that the catcher's missed completely. You should be relatively protected if you are in a good slot position and nobody moves or misses the pitch...
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Old Fri Jun 08, 2007, 04:45pm
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I'm pretty far back, so I don't think that's the issue.

With a righty up, your left hand is exposed.
I'm still trying to picture this, and maybe I've been doing it wrong.

I'm in the slot..."double wide" ... my nose is on the inside edge of the plate.
My toes are pointing toward the mound, and my hands [fingers/palms] are on the outside of my knees, fingertips pointing at the ground, tucked in behind the side profile of my shingards; my thumbs are on top of my legs, behind my knees and also behind the profile of my shinguards. My right knee is [usually] behind F2's left shoulder; my LEFT knee is [usually] "behind" the batter's body. My WRIST can get hit, but for the life of me I cannot imagine how I can get a solid hit on my hand as described by kyle ... not saying it didn't happen to him, just thinking, still, that maybe it's GDS/Modified[kylejt ver.] that's the problem.
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2007, 12:23pm
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so how far should you stand behind the catcher when your doing the GDS....anyone got pics??
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2007, 12:37pm
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Ahem,

"....anyone got pics??"

Here is one umpiring working the Davis Stance:

http://www.umpire.org/modules.php?na...r=asc&start=15

REgards,
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2007, 01:29pm
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"....anyone got pics??"

Here is one umpiring working the Davis Stance:

http://www.umpire.org/modules.php?na...r=asc&start=15

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Old Tue Jun 12, 2007, 02:33pm
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Ok,

Jamie, please make a little effort yourself:

Click on the "search" button at the top of this page.

Type in "Davis Stance" . . .

When the threads come up go down a bout 10 threads until you see a couple of "Davis Stance" threads.

Click on them until you find this link.

It works fine from that location.

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Old Tue Jun 12, 2007, 03:13pm
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Jamie, please make a little effort yourself:

Click on the "search" button at the top of this page.

Type in "Davis Stance" . . .

When the threads come up go down a bout 10 threads until you see a couple of "Davis Stance" threads.

Click on them until you find this link.

It works fine from that location.

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its not jamie, the whole point is to try to avoid the whole search thing.

Sorry if I am lazy, just one of those days.
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2007, 05:44pm
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Ok,

Kyle:

I am not very good at this type explanation so stick with me:

When I worked the Davis at TOP my hands are on my knees with the "v" between thump and first finger inserted down into the area where my leg guards end at my knee.

My "trigger" to set is to push my hands slightly forward. This means, too me, that little of the "bone part" of my hand is showing just the flesh part until you get to the wrist.

The worst hit I got this year (*) was from a batter that bunted at and fouled back a pretty good fastball. The ball hit me about 4" above the wrist bone.

Using the Davis Stance System does not mean that you won't get hit at all it just seems to me that you get hit less. Being back certain lowered the number of times I was hit during the 5 1/2 years I used the stance.

(*) I no longer stand back 4' as I did when using the Davis. I still work "double wide" but I work in the normal positioning just back of F2 (note: please note that Gerry Davis, Gary Darling and Mark Wegner three practioners of the GDS also no longer work deep).

I did this because evaluators, coaches and assignors do not accept change easily and I found being deep was something I constantly had to defend.

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Old Tue Jun 12, 2007, 07:21pm
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I did this because evaluators, coaches and assignors do not accept change easily and I found being deep was something I constantly had to defend.

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Thanks Tim,

Your latest stance sounds like what I've evolved to now, and for similar reasons. The two shots on the hands were just a freak happenstance. I was just cursing Gerry for a couple of days afterwards.

Kyle
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Old Tue Jun 12, 2007, 03:35pm
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so how far should you stand behind the catcher when your doing the GDS....anyone got pics??
...A stride to start. 30"-34"
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