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kylejt Thu Jun 07, 2007 05:19pm

I hate Gerry Davis...
 
....well, at least his stance.

I liked everything about it, until I got blasted on both hands the other night. Same spots, in between the index finger and thumb. I put my hands together now, and it shapes a black and blue baseball, complete with threads. My partner said he saw it coming. My hands are far too exposed.

LMan Thu Jun 07, 2007 05:23pm

your fingers go behind your knees (on the sides) and you tuck your thumbs up behind the tops of your shinguards.

ozzy6900 Thu Jun 07, 2007 05:33pm

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Originally Posted by kylejt[IMG
http://forum.officiating.com/images/icons/icon13.gif[/IMG] I hate Gerry Davis...

I just got off the phone with Gerry. He said that he hates you too! :D :D

cbfoulds Thu Jun 07, 2007 06:13pm

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Originally Posted by kylejt
My hands are far too exposed.

What LMan said ... I'm thinking you've got your hands wrong.
O/w I'm having trouble imagining how you got hit where you did [web btwn thumb & index] - that's a real odd angle for the ball to be coming from.
That, and you may be standing too close to the plate/batter/catcher.

Unless you are gonna tuck 'em behind your back - face it: your arms/ hands are going to connect with a pitch occasionally, no matter what plate stance you use.

I've been drilled in a couple of [unprotected] places doing GDS - arms mostly, and one wrist; but my hands got clobbered far more frequently, and harder, when I was a "scissors guy". With my hands on the SIDE of my knees, I've had them brushed by a foul/ passed ball .. maybe twice? In 3 years. Hit? Never. It's just not a place/ direction where the ball often goes where I am standing on the field.

nickrego Fri Jun 08, 2007 02:38am

And I bet you are standing in the wrong place...most likely too close to the catcher. The closer you are to the catcher, as with a traditional slot stance, the more you get hit (like the catcher).

kylejt Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:14am

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Originally Posted by nickrego
And I bet you are standing in the wrong place...most likely too close to the catcher. The closer you are to the catcher, as with a traditional slot stance, the more you get hit (like the catcher).

I'm pretty far back, so I don't think that's the issue.

I wear my shinguards under my pants, thank you. So hooking my mitts underneath is not an option. With a righty up, your left hand is exposed. That's just part of the risk. I was just unlucky enough to take two identical shots on both sides of the dish within a matter of minutes. Really weird and painful.

ctblu40 Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:16am

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Originally Posted by kylejt
I wear my shinguards under my pants, thank you. So hooking my mitts underneath is not an option.

You should still be able to tuck them behind your guards... just put some pant in there too...

GarthB Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:18am

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Originally Posted by ctblu40
You should still be able to tuck them behind your guards... just put some pant in there too...


That is, if you're wearing plate pants.

LMan Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:20am

I wear combos behind the plate, and its never been an issue for me. The top of the guard rides up some when I crouch anyway.

mcrowder Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:31am

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Originally Posted by kylejt
I'm pretty far back, so I don't think that's the issue.

I wear my shinguards under my pants, thank you. So hooking my mitts underneath is not an option. With righty up, your left hand is exposed. That's just part of the risk. I was just unlucky enough to take two identical shots on both sides of the dish within a matter of minutes. Really weird and painful.

Maybe I've been doing it wrong then ... can you show me a picture of someone in the proper stance with his hand exposed? My hands (as mentioned above) are behind my knees - with just a LITTLE exposure on my wrists.

RPatrino Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:20pm

I have used the GD for about 5 years now and have never been hit in the hand. I have been hit on the left arm, though, on pitches that are WAAAY inside to a righty that the catcher's missed completely. You should be relatively protected if you are in a good slot position and nobody moves or misses the pitch...;)

cbfoulds Fri Jun 08, 2007 04:45pm

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Originally Posted by kylejt
I'm pretty far back, so I don't think that's the issue.

With a righty up, your left hand is exposed.

I'm still trying to picture this, and maybe I've been doing it wrong.

I'm in the slot..."double wide" ... my nose is on the inside edge of the plate.
My toes are pointing toward the mound, and my hands [fingers/palms] are on the outside of my knees, fingertips pointing at the ground, tucked in behind the side profile of my shingards; my thumbs are on top of my legs, behind my knees and also behind the profile of my shinguards. My right knee is [usually] behind F2's left shoulder; my LEFT knee is [usually] "behind" the batter's body. My WRIST can get hit, but for the life of me I cannot imagine how I can get a solid hit on my hand as described by kyle ... not saying it didn't happen to him, just thinking, still, that maybe it's GDS/Modified[kylejt ver.] that's the problem.

JFlores Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:23pm

so how far should you stand behind the catcher when your doing the GDS....anyone got pics??

Tim C Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:37pm

Ahem,
 
"....anyone got pics??"

Here is one umpiring working the Davis Stance:

http://www.umpire.org/modules.php?na...r=asc&start=15

REgards,

JFlores Tue Jun 12, 2007 01:29pm

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Originally Posted by Tim C
"....anyone got pics??"

Here is one umpiring working the Davis Stance:

http://www.umpire.org/modules.php?na...r=asc&start=15

REgards,

Link doesnt work.


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