Ejection video

[David B]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

It's organized minor league baseball. It's embarrassing, IMO. If they want to force umpires to tolerate this, fine, but I wouldn't at any game I worked.

I have a hard time believing that. If you were getting paid to work the league you would put up with it or quit.

Look yesterday, Jim Leyland was on the field for 6 minutes (Sportscenter timed it) and Lou Pinella was on the field for nearly 5 minutes with his tirade.

Its all about entertainment. We grew up in the same era to know Earl Weaver and his showboating along with Billy Martin.

Certainly I wouldnt' put up with it in my games - I'd call security and get them run, but then I don't work for MLB.

We might not like it, but I agree with John Kruk, this is MLB and the umpires get paid to go along with the entertainment.

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David

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by David B

I have a hard time believing that. If you were getting paid to work the league you would put up with it or quit.

Look yesterday, Jim Leyland was on the field for 6 minutes (Sportscenter timed it) and Lou Pinella was on the field for nearly 5 minutes with his tirade.

Its all about entertainment. We grew up in the same era to know Earl Weaver and his showboating along with Billy Martin.

Certainly I wouldnt' put up with it in my games - I'd call security and get them run, but then I don't work for MLB.

We might not like it, but I agree with John Kruk, this is MLB and the umpires get paid to go along with the entertainment.

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David

No. They get paid to handle it. You're confusing MLU game management with "going along with the entertainment." Trust me. They are not "going along with it", nor are them amused by juvenile rants or tantrums by a-holes. I've spoken with umpires who worked games with Earl Weaver in attendance. Not one had a favorable comment.

[David B]

Originally Posted by GarthB

No. They get paid to handle it. You're confusing MLU game management with "going along with the entertainment." Trust me. They are not "going along with it", nor are them amused by juvenile rants or tantrums by a-holes. I've spoken with umpires who worked games with Earl Weaver in attendance. Not one had a favorable comment.

I've read their books also and the ones that I've read all had very amusing stories to tell about managers who went off the deep end.

I know what you are saying, its no fun to be made fun of, but bottomline is that we as umpires, "that's what we do".

We're big enough and thick skinned enough to do the job in spite of the idiot managers at all levels that we face.

Where would we be as umpires without the stories that we have to tell, and most all of the good stories revolve around ... that's right an ejection of a coach.

Sure we all complain about it, me included, but its who we are.

At least that's the way I see it.

thanks
David

[David B]

Originally Posted by GarthB

I'm not talking about what someone might right to sell a book.

Sit down and half a drink with an umpire that had to endure a Weaver tirade. He'll tell you that 20 years later he can laugh, but at the time, it was a job, and not an easy one, to handle that sawed off a$$hole. You won't hear "what colorful character he was."

What I'm saying is that you're dead wrong if you think ML umpires consider their part of dealing with these guys to be part of the "entertainment." They manage them as best they can, and it's part of the job that they don't enjoy.

You are completely correct, and I agree with that 100 percent. I would imagine its even worse today because of television that makes even more out of it.

I know the umpires don't think of it as entertainment, but I'm sure MLB does or they wouldn't allow it.

I've maintained for years that baseball is weak in this regard because there is no penalty to the team for the coach acting like an idiot - basketball - T, football - throw the flag, baseball - null.

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David

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by David B

I've maintained for years that baseball is weak in this regard because there is no penalty to the team for the coach acting like an idiot - basketball - T, football - throw the flag, baseball - null.

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David

Actually, baseball has the most severe penalty, ejection. Some complain that we don't have something less severe like a "T" or 15 yards for USC.

[CJN]

phillip wellman got a 3 game suspension. extremely light if you ask me.

[Toadman15241]

Originally Posted by CJN

phillip wellman got a 3 game suspension. extremely light if you ask me.

That was from the team. The league is yet to act.