Missed first base

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by blueump

BR running to first on a ground ball. The first baseman stretches to catch the throw, with just his toes on the edge of the bag.

The BR (maybe even in an attempt to spike the first baseman) runs inside the line and trips over the heal of the first baseman, never touching the base. They both fall to the ground, although the first baseman keeps his foot on the bag and catches the ball.

The runner arrives first, but never touches the base. Is the foot part of the base? do you call him safe waiting for an appeal? or do you have an out?

Wow. You're kidding right? "Is the foot part of the bag?" Really? I guess you've removed all doubt now.

As to the rest ... what do we normally do when the runner beats the throw, but misses the bag?

[blueump]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Wow. You're kidding right? "Is the foot part of the bag?" Really? I guess you've removed all doubt now.

So, you have a first baseman with his foot on the bag, the runner steps directly on his foot, but technically never touches the bag, just the foot.
YOU would call him out on appeal??? Good thing I never umpire with you!

[LMan]

but you said F3's 'toes just on the edge of the bag.' Which is it?

Good thing I never umpire with you!

I'm sure Mike's heart is broken now, but perhaps he'll get over it. Someday.

[blueump]

Originally Posted by LMan

but you said F3's 'toes just on the edge of the bag.' Which is it?

I was using another situation to stress a point. Get over it.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by blueump

I was using another situation to stress a point. Get over it.

It's just funny to see you (again) rip into the first person who dares offer an opinion on your sitches. Which change with every post.

OK, back to the box for you

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by blueump

So, you have a first baseman with his foot on the bag, the runner steps directly on his foot, but technically never touches the bag, just the foot.

First... that's not what you asked at all. Second - in such a scenario, I find it incredibly doubtful that BR would not touch the base at all. Not without breaking someone's ankle.

Good thing I never umpire with you!

Finally ... something we agree on.

(Did you REALLY ask ... "Is the foot part of the bag?"!?!?!?!)

[LMan]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

First... that's not what you asked at all.

Well, we went over that. He changes the sitch as the thread develops/deteriorates, to match his current argument. He calls it 'emphasizing a point,' I prefer 'making facts fit theory'

[umpduck11]

Hands are part of the bat..... Feet are part of the base.

As Ricky Ricardo would say " Aye yai yai yai yai ".