Unusual occurence in April 28th Baltimore-Cleveland game

[PeteBooth]

IMO, the problem in major league baseball is because of the huge scoreboards etc. etc. the umpires get into a comfort zone and do not VERBALLY communicate like we would in 2 person.

I am pretty certain the PRO schools go over this because we are taught on a time play to signal to our partners that we could have a potential TIME play and then if one does occur, say RUN COUNTS or RUN Does not count.

IMO, this crew should be embarassed.

We saw this in the Angels/White Sox series on the contoversial uncaught third strike.

IMO, Major League baseball needs to tell the head of the PRO Umpires that more verbalization / communication is needed. Just because this is major league baseball doesn't mean you will not encounter some "strange" things. Also, a player failing to tag up on a fly ball is not all that strange especially if it's a diving catch in the outfield.

Also, I am shocked that this crew had to refer to the rule-book to get it right.

If the aforementioned happened in the LLWS or some other youth event, most would say "well you get what you paid for" or "that's why they call them LL umpires" or something along those lines.

Pete Booth

[UMP25]

This is perhaps one of the most common time play situations reflected on umpire exams everywhere. How they--one of the umpires at least--could not know this is inexcusable.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by UMP25

This is perhaps one of the most common time play situations reflected on umpire exams everywhere. How they--one of the umpires at least--could not know this is inexcusable.

I couldn't agree with you more. I can see cutting one of these guys some slack for having a brain cramp, but all four having the same brain cramp...................no way.



Tim.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

If the aforementioned happened in the LLWS or some other youth event, most would say "well you get what you paid for" or "that's why they call them LL umpires" or something along those lines.

Pete Booth

Pete, I train LL umpires, and I promise you our 11/12 year old rookie crop of Junior umps would all know this one. And that's without consulting a book. I'd venture to guess that most high school umpires would know this one too.

[SAump]

Why did they resume the game with such an important decision in question?

[UMP25]

Sometimes I wonder if MLB's dictates about umpires always getting together to have their pow-wows causes more problems than it's supposed to resolve. Just my 2 cents.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

IMO, the problem in major league baseball is because of the huge scoreboards etc. etc. the umpires get into a comfort zone and do not VERBALLY communicate like we would in 2 person.

I am pretty certain the PRO schools go over this because we are taught on a time play to signal to our partners that we could have a potential TIME play and then if one does occur, say RUN COUNTS or RUN Does not count.

In all fairness to the rest of the MLB crews out there that I have observed, I regularly see the PU signal "Time Play" when the situation comes up. I have never heard of any crews getting this basic concept wrong (until now.)

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

In all fairness to the rest of the MLB crews out there that I have observed, I regularly see the PU signal "Time Play" when the situation comes up. I have never heard of any crews getting this basic concept wrong (until now.)

I don't always tap my wrist with one out. Two outs, and runners in scoring position I will, but rarely on one out.

[canadaump6]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

If the aforementioned happened in the LLWS or some other youth event, most would say "well you get what you paid for" or "that's why they call them LL umpires" or something along those lines.

Sorry to quote you as I don't normally like to do that, but the umpires got off extremely easy on this one. There should have been a whole gang of managers ready to tear their heads off.