New Umpire advise

[DG]

#2 Runners on 1st and 2nd (I will refrain from using R1 on 2nd and R2 on 1st to keep from confusing anyone new), 1 out. High fligh ball to SS over near 2b, runner on 1b runs to 2b and is on his way to 3rd when he passes the runner on 2b who is coming back to the bag. They don't touch each other. SS takes his eye off the ball as the runner from 1b goes by and the runner on 2b takes a look at the runner from 1b who just passed him and as he does he is struck by the fly ball on it's way down.

What are the call(s)?

[Rcichon]

IFF, BR out.
Runner on 1st out for passing Runner on 2nd.
That makes the 3rd out.


Did I blow it?

[DG]

Originally Posted by Rcichon

IFF, BR out.
Runner on 1st out for passing Runner on 2nd.
That makes the 3rd out.


Did I blow it?

No, but I blew the example, try it with none out.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by DG

No, but I blew the example, try it with none out.

IFF, BR is out.

R1 is out for passing R2. Dead ball, R2 stays at 2nd. 2 outs and an ice pack for R2.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Welpe

IFF, BR is out.

R1 is out for passing R2. Dead ball, R2 stays at 2nd. 2 outs and an ice pack for R2.

So close. Hint: R2 can't have an ice pack at second.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

So close. Hint: R2 can't have an ice pack at second.

That's what I get for being trying to be funny. My fiance keeps telling me that I'm the only one that finds myself funny, maybe I should start listening to her.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Welpe

That's what I get for being trying to be funny. My fiance keeps telling me that I'm the only one that finds myself funny, maybe I should start listening to her.

IT was only a hint. The ice pack isn't what's wrong with your answer.

[Rcichon]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcichon
IFF, BR out.
Runner on 1st out for passing Runner on 2nd.
That makes the 3rd out.


Did I blow it?

No, but I blew the example, try it with none out.

ok since IFF HTBT, here goes ---

R1 out for passing R2: Out #1
INT on R2: Out #2
BR safe at 1

[Blue37]

Originally Posted by DG

#2 Runners on 1st and 2nd (I will refrain from using R1 on 2nd and R2 on 1st to keep from confusing anyone new), 1 out. High fligh ball to SS over near 2b, runner on 1b runs to 2b and is on his way to 3rd when he passes the runner on 2b who is coming back to the bag. They don't touch each other. SS takes his eye off the ball as the runner from 1b goes by and the runner on 2b takes a look at the runner from 1b who just passed him and as he does he is struck by the fly ball on it's way down.

What are the call(s)?

Let's start with 911.

[canadaump6]

Originally Posted by DG

#2 Runners on 1st and 2nd (I will refrain from using R1 on 2nd and R2 on 1st to keep from confusing anyone new), 1 out. High fligh ball to SS over near 2b, runner on 1b runs to 2b and is on his way to 3rd when he passes the runner on 2b who is coming back to the bag. They don't touch each other. SS takes his eye off the ball as the runner from 1b goes by and the runner on 2b takes a look at the runner from 1b who just passed him and as he does he is struck by the fly ball on it's way down.

What are the call(s)?

This is my attempt:

Infield fly, batter is out.
Runner at first is out for passing the runner at 2nd.
If the runner at 2nd base was on the base, he's not out (although I cannot say I am 100% sure whether it's a dead ball or not, but I would assume so because the runner did get hit). If the runner is off the base he's out for being touched by an infield fly.

Did I get it right?

[Rcichon]

I think canada got the wording correct.

[Don Mueller]

Originally Posted by DG

#2 Runners on 1st and 2nd (I will refrain from using R1 on 2nd and R2 on 1st to keep from confusing anyone new), 1 out. High fligh ball to SS over near 2b, runner on 1b runs to 2b and is on his way to 3rd when he passes the runner on 2b who is coming back to the bag. They don't touch each other. SS takes his eye off the ball as the runner from 1b goes by and the runner on 2b takes a look at the runner from 1b who just passed him and as he does he is struck by the fly ball on it's way down.

What are the call(s)?

Whether IFF should have been called or not I don't know, high fly is a relative term and we don't know weather conditions or original placement of fielders.
DG never said IFF was called, which if it was it should have been prior to hitting R2.
Since IFF was not called. Correct ruling would be R1 out for passing and R2 out for interference BR on 1st with 2 outs.

[archangel]

Originally Posted by Don Mueller

Whether IFF should have been called or not I don't know, high fly is a relative term and we don't know weather conditions or original placement of fielders.
DG never said IFF was called, which if it was it should have been prior to hitting R2.
Since IFF was not called. Correct ruling would be R1 out for passing and R2 out for interference BR on 1st with 2 outs.

Don, Im sure you are aware that IFF doesnt have to be called to be an IFF. As long as the IFF conditions are met, the defense and offense are expected to know the situation....

[Don Mueller]

Originally Posted by archangel

Don, Im sure you are aware that IFF doesnt have to be called to be an IFF. As long as the IFF conditions are met, the defense and offense are expected to know the situation....

That's why i prefaced with saying I did not know weather conditions, original placement of fielders and mentioning that "high fly" is a relative term. Not every pop up in an IFF situation is an IFF.

I'm sure DG assumed that we would all assume it was an IFF, however, as a contrarian I chose not to make that assumption.

[UmpJM]

archangel,
As I'm sure you are aware, it's only an IFF if the umpire judges that it could have been caught by an infielder with ordinary effort. In this particular case, I can't tell. How can you?
JM