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[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

From J/R:

[It is a trip if a manager (or his coach)] ...

(e) substitutes a pitcher without a conference.

OK, I'll be honest - I've read JR, but have never noticed this particular item. My question, then (since no one I know of around here counts it that way) is - what rule is JR using to come to this conclusion. As it was said in the thread the other day - JR et all are not meant to supercede the rulebook, but rather to clarify it or support it. I can't find any reasoning (implied, written, or otherwise) in the rulebook to point me toward charging a conference without an actual conference.

[ctblu40]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

OK, I'll be honest - I've read JR, but have never noticed this particular item. My question, then (since no one I know of around here counts it that way) is - what rule is JR using to come to this conclusion. As it was said in the thread the other day - JR et all are not meant to supercede the rulebook, but rather to clarify it or support it. I can't find any reasoning (implied, written, or otherwise) in the rulebook to point me toward charging a conference without an actual conference.

I've been reading and re-reading 8.06 and 3.03 and can't seem find a reason for the J/R interpretation. I've looked in the PBUC manual, and it agrees with J/R concerning 8.06(b) that the pitcher be removed from the game but mentions nothing of J/R's interpretation of substituting F1 without a trip.

Does the MLBUM mention this?


Edited to change conference to trip

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by ctblu40

I've been reading and re-reading 8.06 and 3.03 and can't seem find a reason for the J/R interpretation. I've looked in the PBUC manual, and it agrees with J/R concerning 8.06(b) that the pitcher be removed from the game but mentions nothing of J/R's interpretation of substituting F1 without a trip.

Does the MLBUM mention this?

I have thoroughly checked the MLBUM, and nothing concerning a trip being charged without an actual visit during a substitution of pitcher is mentioned.